A Journey Through Lyme: Paul Frantellizzi's Story

Episode 180 September 25, 2024 00:36:38
A Journey Through Lyme: Paul Frantellizzi's Story
Integrative Lyme Solutions with Dr. Karlfeldt
A Journey Through Lyme: Paul Frantellizzi's Story

Sep 25 2024 | 00:36:38

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In this episode of Integrative Lyme Solution, our guest Paul Frantellizzi recounts his intense and harrowing journey with Lyme disease. Contracted while in the south of France in the 1990s, Paul describes his initial diagnosis, the ineffective treatments he underwent, and the severe symptoms he faced, including memory loss, migraines, and severe pain. He shares his path to recovery, which involved a mix of rigorous research, diet changes, an intense self-prescribed antibiotic regimen, and the power of visualization and positive thinking. Paul also discusses his new health challenges, including an event that left him with fibromyalgia, and how his experiences with Lyme disease inspired his current work in the health supplement industry.

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[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative Lyme Solutions with Doctor Karl Feldt. [00:00:05] Speaker B: I am so excited about the show that we have ahead of us. We have some phenomenal information that could save lives. You're gonna need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is jam packed, so don't step away. [00:00:24] Speaker C: Hello. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Thank you so much for joining integrative Lime Solutions with Doctor Karl Feldt. I am your host, Doctor Michael Karlfeldt. I've been in clinical practice since 1987. I've seen pretty much everything under the sun. I worked with so many different Lyme patients, and I know what a devastating disease this is. That's why I'm doing this podcast, to make sure that you are armed with the information that you need in order to be able to be successful in your struggle with Lyme. We'll be featuring authors, doctors, professors, and also people like yourself that have gone through the journey that you're going through, that have been where you've been and is now on the other side. And they get to tell their victorious story as to how they battle line so that you can implement that in your life as well. Be sure to like us and write a review on whichever platform that you're listening on. What that does is it enables other people to see us more so that they have access to this information as well. So I'm so excited that you're tuning in and get ready for this upcoming show. It is going to be amazing. Well, Paul Frantilisi, I'm so excited to have you on this segment of integrative lime solution with Doctor Carl Feld. Thank you so much for spending some time with me and chatting with me and telling your story. [00:01:54] Speaker C: Thank you for having me. It's an absolute pleasure. Love what you do and I can't wait to tell my story. [00:01:59] Speaker B: I'm excited. So, yeah, Lyme, I mean, Lyme was. Was that something that was on your radar before you started to kind of deal with symptoms? [00:02:11] Speaker C: No, I was, at least to the best of my knowledge, I was a fairly early case. I was in 1990 when I contracted Lyme. I was in, we believe it happened in south of France. I was roaming around in Loire Valley, south of France, laying in tall grasses, drinking wine, having a wonderful time in my twenties. And I did not, like most people, I did not see any sort of ring or red spot or. I didn't know. I got bitten at all, to be honest with you. Came home and within a couple of months, and mind you again, I'm a vibrant, very strong, very active, very physical, 28, 29 year old at the time. And within a few months, I'm exhausted, I'm foggy, I can't think very well. Things are just not right. So I go to a local doctor in New York City. She ran blood work, and within a couple of days, she called me back and said, you've got something called Lyme disease. Never heard of it. [00:03:17] Speaker B: And so, I mean, that's amazing to me that they actually got to, because most people, they go on, like, a 30, you know, 20 year journey on figuring out that they actually got Lyme. So here you're in the 1990s. [00:03:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:33] Speaker B: And you have a doctor that are actually diagnosing you with Lyme at that time. [00:03:40] Speaker C: I totally agree. At the time, I didn't know it, but in hindsight, I got very, very lucky that she immediately knew what it was. And I don't know how or why she knew. She might have read a paper, who knows, right? But she was very in tune with it and tested for it quickly and diagnosed it. It didn't help very much, sadly, and we'll get into that. But it was a five year journey of tough times. [00:04:07] Speaker B: And so here she has a diagnosis. What is the first step? I mean, because obviously she. This is Lyme. Let's go and do this. What was that plan? [00:04:19] Speaker C: She followed the standard protocol at the time, which was roughly a six week run of doxycycline. And that's it, and you're cured. It didn't work. I went through multiple, over a couple of year period, multiple, uh, um, sessions of that six week doxycycline sort of protocol, and, um. And each time I just kept getting worse and worse. And the Herxheimer reaction kept getting worse and worse for me. So it wasn't working. So what. What I did next is I researched. I started researching. My wife and I started researching Lyme, and we found Doctor Burrascano on the east coast and then doctor ling on the west coast. I went to both doctors and they literally prescribed the exact same protocol. It was no different. So I went, you know, it was doxycycline again for six weeks. Let's see what happens. And I'm now probably four years into this at this point now with no help whatsoever. [00:05:19] Speaker B: And so how, what did, let's say, the first six weeks of doxy, which is pretty amazing. Cause now they. I think they shorten it to, like, two weeks, and then you're cured. And if you're not, yeah, if you still have symptoms, it wasn't lyme, because you cured Lyme, of course. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's gone by now. [00:05:40] Speaker C: Magical. [00:05:41] Speaker B: So how. How did you. The first six weeks, I mean, did you just feel horrible or did you feel any relief or did. [00:05:49] Speaker C: What. [00:05:49] Speaker B: What did you experience with that? [00:05:51] Speaker C: So, yeah, so. And again, I went through many of these cycles, and each cycle during the regimen, I really didn't. I didn't feel any different, honestly. I didn't notice any difference until we stopped. And then every time we had these massive Herxheimer reactions where I felt really, really bad for a period of time, days to a week, maybe, and then the symptoms didn't really change. I just. The way I see it now, and it's 30 something years ago, but the way I felt and the way I see it now is I just kept slowly, progressively getting worse at the end, you know, near that five year period, I lost all short term, long term memory. I was slurred speech, I was in and out of hospitals. I had spinal meningitis, encephalitis, depression, massive migraines, like, pain I've never felt before, this constant migraine, sort of back in the neck, swelling pain. So I was bedridden quite a lot. So I was in pretty bad shape. And at that point, my wife and I thought we weren't going to make it. Honestly, it was that bad because we kept following these protocols and not getting any relief whatsoever, not even short term. [00:07:06] Speaker B: And all they were doing, because now there's a huge slew of different antibiotics and therapies. So all they were throwing at you at that time was just doxycycline? [00:07:18] Speaker C: Doxy was the only thing I took at the time. Now, I will, if you want me to, I can share with you my protocol, what. What cured me, in all honesty? [00:07:27] Speaker B: Yes. I want to get into that kind of how that. That transition later on. Yeah, sure. [00:07:31] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, yeah. So. But, yeah, Doxy was the only thing that. That I was prescribed for a bunch of years. [00:07:37] Speaker B: Okay. And so there's no. That. Yeah. And apparently, I mean, it was. Was early in the game, in a way. You know, you get the 1990s, so there weren't as many tools and. And, yeah. As much research as we've done now. Yeah. And so when you say you were in and out of hospitals, what kind of. Why did you go into the hospital? I mean, was it pain? Was it heart? Was it mainly pain? [00:08:07] Speaker C: Just what I see is encephalitis. What was told to me is encephalitis, but really bad, massive pain in the top of my neck. Back of my head, where I literally couldn't function, I lost vision. I was blurred, you know, really serious. Blur vision, similar to what I've experienced in my life a couple different times, is a really, really heavy migraine where you can't see, you'll get blurred vision, you can't function. You just shut down. And it was constant. At that point. The pain was just constant. [00:08:39] Speaker B: And for how long were you in that bad. How long were you in that bad state? I mean. Cause it progressed to a point where it was really bad. And how long was that for? [00:08:51] Speaker C: I would say it's probably the last year. The last full year I was feeling like that. So I was going in and out of clinics, trying to figure out what's going on. What can I do? And we were lost. I mean, you know, this, I'm sure you've seen many patients like this, but back in the nineties, we were literally lost. We didn't know what was happening. Doctors didn't really know what was happening. So we just kept going in and out of different clinics. And what I tried many times is to see different doctors, to see if I could get a different opinion or different sort of protocol. Nothing seemed to help. Aside from Burskan Ling and the doctor, and I've forgotten her name, unfortunately, that first diagnosed me. Nobody else knew anything about Lyme at the time. It was just foreign to most doctors or clinics. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Because you have the initial doctor that did that and diagnosis, and, I mean, even now, other doctors are almost persecuting people that are diagnosing Lyme. And I can. Maybe they, at that time, they haven't really gotten up to, you know, up to sniff in regards to going after those kind of doctors. So what did the other doctors say about that diagnosis? [00:10:09] Speaker C: Nothing. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Nothing. So did they say, yes, this is Lyme disease, or just say, we have no idea, Lyme disease? Or did they say, no, it's not Lyme. We think it's this, or we think it's that. [00:10:22] Speaker C: The one thing I remember is most people didn't know anything and they didn't have answers, honestly. They didn't know why. I had sort of arthritic pain and swelling, what seemed to be autoimmune, and no one knew really what was going on. Lupus was one of the things that sort of got thrown out there a couple different times, and we felt at the time, and now I have a little more insight to it, that it was sort of just this catch all. We don't really know what it is. It's probably lupus or it's probably something else. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Fibromyalgia or. Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, well, fibromyalgia wasn't really that big at that time either. Yeah. So it's. [00:10:59] Speaker C: Yeah, and we'll chat about that, too, because I'm dealing with that right now, and I'll. I'd love to talk about the possible connection, you know, 30 years later, 40 years later. [00:11:09] Speaker B: Exactly. And so you're talking about kind of no short term, long term memory. What does that look like, if you don't mind describing? What is that? [00:11:18] Speaker C: Sure. First, it was incredibly embarrassing, very difficult in a work environment, because I would have. At the time, I was a restaurant club manager. I was bartending different nights. I was in an environment where it was always about remembering your customers coming in and out of the restaurant to the clubs. And I had no idea who I was talking to, and I faked it all the time. People would say, hi, Paul, how are you? Great to see you. And I had no idea who they were. When I was in an environment where I was with friends or family, my wife was with me, and she would often, she would see that look in my face. She whispered in my ear, that's Bob, that's Joan, that's whomever. Because I just. I literally couldn't remember who I was talking to or what the experiences were past. And it was short and long term. Long term wasn't as bad like I remembered my family, but I really lost touch with a lot of old memories from childhood. So the short term, I think, was the worst and probably the most embarrassing, but long term as well, I just. I couldn't remember events and things like that, and it lasted for quite some time. [00:12:26] Speaker D: Hello, dear listeners. This is doctor Michael Karlfeldt, your host of integrative Lyme Solutions. Today I'm excited to share an exclusive opportunity from the Karlfall center, where we blend healing power of nature with groundbreaking therapies to combat Lyme disease and its associated challenges. At the Karfel center, we're not just fighting Lyme, we're revolutionizing the way it's treated with cutting edge therapies like photodynamic therapy, full body ozone iv therapy, silver iv's, brain rebalancing, autonomic response testing, laser energetic detoxification, and more. We aim to eradicate Lyme. Our approach is comprehensive, supporting your body's immune system, detoxification processes, hormonal balance, and mitochondrial health, ensuring a holistic path to recovery. Understanding Lyme disease and its impact is complex, which is why we're offering a free 15 minutes discovery call with one of our Lyme literate naturopathic doctors. This call is your first step towards understanding how we can personalize your healing journey, focusing on you as a whole person, not just your symptoms. Our team, led by myself, doctor Michael Karlthalz, is here to guide you through your recovery with the most advanced diagnostic tools, individualized treatment plans, and supportive therapies designed to restore your health and vitality. Whether you're facing Lyme disease head on to or seeking preventative strategies, we're committed to your wellness. Take the first step towards reclaiming your health. Visit [email protected] or call us at 208-338-8902 to schedule your free discovery call at the Karlfold center. We believe in healing naturally, effectively and holistically. Thank you for tuning in into integrative Lyme solution with doctor Karl Feld. Remember, true health is not just the absence of disease, it's achieving the abundance of vitality. Let's discover yours together. [00:14:27] Speaker B: So did the memory come back or was some of that lost? [00:14:31] Speaker C: No, no. My sort of recollection is that we sort of saw this as after we did our own protocol, and within three months, we felt like I was back to normal. I just got back completely normal. I felt good, I felt healthy. My memory was back, my speech was back, the pain subsided. All these things just sort of went away very quickly. I had other things that I had to deal with because of my protocol, which I know well talk about. And that was, you know, I had gut issues and things like that because of what I was doing. So I had to deal with that and heal that. But other than that, sort of the main line issues that I had dealt with for five years just sort of went away just really quickly. [00:15:15] Speaker B: That's amazing. That's incredible. So here you've gone to all these different doctors. You get the same, I mean, from the Lyme literate doctors, you get the same kind of protocol and the other ones are just confused. So what do you do as a next step? I mean, here you're looking for answers. Nobody's able to give you answers. Where do you start looking for answers that you haven't looked before? [00:15:41] Speaker C: Yeah, and it's a great, great question. And it was really tough. Again, we're talking nineties, so we didn't have access to Google, we didn't have access to all the data and the information we have now. So I was talking to people, I was in libraries, I was meeting with as many doctors as I could and asking questions, where do I go? How do I find this? What we decided at one point was that we felt like I was going to die. We didn't think I was going to make it, it was that bad. And we took this approach that was, we're going to fight like hell. We're not going to lay back and listen and just be sort of, we're going to be proactive, as opposed to just listening to what a doctor or somebody might say to us and hoping it works. So we started fighting and we took a really aggressive fighting approach. And that meant educating ourselves, myself, mainly. So what I did at that time is I got all the information I could. I learned about the Lyme spirochete, I learned about how it works and blood brain barrier and blood flow and what it looked like. That was really important to me. I wanted to know what this bacteria literally looked like under a microscope, so I could visualize it and go fight it within my body. So I took a really sort of nowadays, like a wim hof sort of mindset to this, I'm going to go inside and control my immune system and fight this thing. And it was. And we'll get into more detail on that. But that's how I approached it. It was really through education and reading as much as I could and learning as much as I could. [00:17:15] Speaker B: So at that end, and I'm curious because, I mean, we know the information that exists now, so what was the information that existed at that time? Did people know the different forms of the, of Lyme, or they just knew the spirochetes? They didn't know the persisters or the, you know, all these other things at that time. [00:17:36] Speaker C: Yeah, not. Not as much, of course. They. What I learned early on was similar to syphilis. It had similar sort of paths as syphilis does, which was scary when you hear that, and you don't really know about these things. So we. I learned really simple things like it. It was able to cross the blood brain barrier and sort of protect itself, which is what caused. And again, I'm broad stroking this, in a sense, obviously, I'm no doctor, which is what caused the Herxheimer reaction. It would hide, you'd stop your antibiotics, and then it would come back out and you'd have all this dead bacteria sort of flushing out of your system and things like that. So I tried to learn little bits at a time. There was not a lot of information. Most people didn't know about it, and there wasn't much published. I did find some things down in Mexico that were being done, some different protocols and therapies. I don't know how I found them, in all honesty. Again, it's so long ago and it's so distant, but we just hustled libraries, papers, documents, talking to people, things like that. [00:18:43] Speaker B: That's amazing. I remember Doctor Klinghardt, he was mentioning that comparing syphilis, because syphilis, like you mentioned, has very similar qualities. I said, you know, the complexity of lime compared to flagnet to syphilis is like comparing an elephant to flea. [00:19:05] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that, yeah, that's just showing kind of the intelligence and the complexity of lime compared to the syphilis. Yeah. So I thought that was kind of an interesting way of looking at it. So here you are, you're hitting the pavement, you are going all out because you're feeling that if you don't do something, you may not enjoy your marriage for as long as you would like to. So what were the next step? What were some of the realizations that you had and what were some of the action steps that you were taking in relationship to that? [00:19:48] Speaker C: Yeah. So we took a very, very radical approach. And I would start by saying, I don't recommend this to anybody, but it worked for me, but it was very dangerous. So the first thing I did was change my diet. Simple stuff, no alcohol, no sugars, no junk food. So I really changed my diet in a great way. And I thought that was a baseline. I have to make sure that whatever I do, I've got to get healthy. I put myself in the ocean. We happen to live in California. After seeing Doctor Lingdev, I put myself in the ocean four to 6 hours a day, swimming to get a lot of exercise, because outside the water I had so much pain, I couldn't do a lot. So the ocean was sort of this saving grace for me. So I boogie boarded and swam for literally four to 6 hours a day. Wasn't working. I could not function, could not work. I sat in a hot tub every night and cranked up the heat to 110, 115 degrees, literally burning myself and trying to heat my core temperature to kill the bacteria if I could. Again, some of the stuff may sound crazy, I don't know, but we were sort of desperate at this time. Not sort of, we were absolutely desperate. So I sat in a hot tub late at night, raising that temperature up as high as I could possibly stand. I was drinking food grade hydrogen peroxide to oxygenate my system, my blood. Again, crazy at the time, but again, we didn't know any better. And then I think that the one thing I think helped me quite a lot is I was also meditating for hours and hours daily, multiple times a day. And I had studied NLP, neuro linguistic programming. So I knew how to put myself in trance states very quickly, very, very successfully going into my unconscious mind. And I literally visualized myself as a warrior going throughout every corner of my body, fighting and finding this lime spirochete and killing it. So there was this intense visualization protocol that I did. And then the one thing that I think was very radical, the last thing I did was I went to multiple doctors and I started hoarding doxycycline, amoxicillin and generic tetracycline. And I had been on tetracycline for about eight years for acne as a child, which in hindsight was hideous and terrible, but somebody had put me on that for acne for years. So I had hoarded these three different antibiotics, and then what I did, I called it an on off therapy. I would take two to three times the amount of a doxy for four to five days and then stop, have this massive HErXHeiMER reaction. And the minute I felt the Herxheimer reaction, come on. I would do three to four times the amoxicillin dose, and I would do this cycling for literally six weeks to almost two months, along with the other stuff I told you. And within three months, after five years, I was back to normal. [00:22:42] Speaker B: Really? [00:22:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:44] Speaker B: That's incredible. [00:22:46] Speaker C: Yeah. So I don't know what did it, honestly, the combination of things, the crazy sort of on, off therapy with the antibiotics. But, you know, one of the things I kept thinking about is, if this I had to be, I had to sort of outsmart this Lyme spirochete, which kept hiding behind the blood brain barrier. So I kept trying to figure out how to force it to hide with massive doses, and then as soon as it comes back out, hit it again with a different antibiotic and then kept doing that. And my guess is that's what worked the most. But, you know, the visualization, the hydrogen peroxide, everything else, I think, didn't hurt. Well, it hurt my gut pretty badly, but we'll deal. We'll talk about that. [00:23:24] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, so the hyperthermia, I mean, it's extremely effective when it relates to Lyme, so. But. But, yes, I mean, you're. You're pretty much scalding yourself. That's. [00:23:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:39] Speaker B: So you did this, you know, three months later, you. You're perfectly fine. Obviously, the gap's still a mess. But, I mean, pain wise, memory, energy, all of that was back 100%. That's incredible. [00:23:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Went back to work and started running businesses for the next 2030 years. And I. And up until recently, have been just going nonstop, 18 hours a day, fighting hard, running businesses, doing everything like I normally would, and without any concern. So, yeah, it was pretty amazing, actually. [00:24:18] Speaker B: So the only symptom that was less was the gut then. So how. What was kind of your next step in that process? [00:24:27] Speaker C: Yeah, candida kicked in pretty heavily, so we moved back to New York. I saw Donald Ronald Hoffman, Doctor Ronald Hoffman. We did a lot of different testing very quickly, figured out I had a very severe case of yeast overgrowth, and then put me on a pretty strict no sugar fermented foods, no processed foods, no gluten, that sort of thing. And honestly, the candida, I still feel like I'm suffering from gut issues. It took years to deal with. It wasn't sort of. I could fix it quickly mindset. It took years of staying away from things like gluten, and I still love sugar. I think about it all the time, but I don't eat it as much. It's still this sort of yin and yang with gut health. So I don't feel like I've totally beaten it, but I've got it under control, I hope. [00:25:21] Speaker B: And are you dealing with any other kind of symptoms that you feel is contributed or that stems from that, or are there other, other issues that you might be dealing with from the candida. [00:25:34] Speaker C: Itself or just overall? From Lyme? [00:25:36] Speaker B: From the Lyme, yeah, overall Lyme, yeah. [00:25:39] Speaker C: Well, it's a great question, because. So I had another big event in my life about a year and a half ago. I woke up one morning completely numb on my left side and paralysis and numb on my left side completely. 64 years old, 63 at the time. I'm 65 now, and this bell went off in my head, like, oh, shoot. Stroke, heart attack, something like that. And I had two friends that both died of strokes in their sleep, so I got a little scared when that happened. We ran to a couple different hospitals. We started the st. Luke's, St. Al's, and had a bunch of tests done that day, and they confirmed that I had what they considered a massive event, a heart attack. They called it something else, but, you know, it was a heart attack. The technical name escapes me. They had no idea why it happened, so they ran multiple tests, ekgs, ultrasounds, you know, MRI. They did everything. Couldn't find the thing wrong with me, but they showed the heart attack that happened, and my left side was completely, again, numb and unable to use it. So we went home again. I had this sort of disappointment in the system, if you don't mind me saying that. And I just, you know, we came home, and my wife and I talked about it, and we thought to ourselves, the one thing that is that no one asked me about and that no one really was concerned with is I had a very serious sleep apnea problem that I was dealing with, and I didn't understand the complexity of it or the potential danger of it. I was probably 35, almost 40 pounds heavier than I am now. So that next day, I went on a very strict diet. It was meat, eggs, cheese, fruit, and I fast. And ever since then, I haven't stopped. I fast 18 hours every day. I eat in a short window, four to 6 hours, and I lost the weight. Sleep apnea went away, and I've been feeling fine since, except for one thing. The left arm came back. Everything sort of came back. Within a couple of weeks, I felt fine, but it kicked in. The old. The almighty fibromyalgia. No one knows what it is, but I have massive, massive fibromyalgia pain that started in my lower left leg and now is in my neck, right shoulder, like, excruciating pain on a daily basis. So I'm trying to deal with that right now. [00:28:06] Speaker B: And do you feel, have you kind of ran into labs? Have you checked to see if Lyme has reactivated in any way or. [00:28:15] Speaker C: Yeah, we did. Lyme isn't showing up at all, obviously, I have. I'm showing really high levels of inflammation. No one knows why. Yeah, but Lyme is. Lyme seems to be, you know, I ran multiple tests over the past year. Everyone says negative. I don't. I'm not totally trusting in those negative responses. In terms of the testing. What I'm struggling with right now is trying to figure out whether the. The Lyme is related to the fibromyalgia, or did the heart attack event kick in fibromyalgia from some old trauma. I had a lot of trauma when I was young, when I was a kid. So is there a connection there? I don't know, honestly. And I think any doctor that I see today that's not really, really in tune with both Lyme and fibromyalgia and some of those causes, or thinking, like you think about a holistic approach, I don't think I would get a reasonable response, so. [00:29:12] Speaker B: And you check for other, because obviously, yes, it can be a multitude of things but you check for, you know, obviously, parasites is a common one. Mold is a common issue, especially if you're on the west or east coast, you know, ocean wise. Yes. And what have you. So in response to this, what have you done so far? [00:29:37] Speaker C: Yeah, so those two things. One, I would say that I have been extremely sensitive to mold. I can sense and smell or feel mold from, you know, half mile away. I'm that sensitive to it. I cannot tolerate mold at all of any type. So that's always been, as far, as long as I can remember, something that I've been very, very sensitive to. I don't feel like there's any issues with mold in my life right now that I'm aware of. So, yeah, I don't. I don't think that's a big issue. I think that, you know, there's been some. Some heavy trauma in my life that could have triggered possibly. I don't know. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's the thing with fibromyalgia. Frequently you have, you have an event, and then, you know, fibromyalgia kicks in, and that event can be, you know, like heart attack, you know, car, car accident, pregnancy, you know, some kind of infection or traumatic event in your life, you know, and so, and it seems to be kind of like a dysregulation and the kind of the hypothalamus pituitary, you know, that, that component, you know, where the body is still in that fight or flight mode, you know, you're. You're still looking upon the world as a threat. Yes. So it's the reprogramming of that. [00:30:57] Speaker C: That's me. Yeah. That comes from childhood, you know. Again, I don't know if there's a connection, but I had a very, very, very physically abusive childhood. So I've always had this fight or flight mentality. Worked on it my whole life. Calm myself, you know, tried to understand it, but it's still. It's still sort of part of my DNA. So, yeah, that's, that's a strong one for me. Parasites, we just started looking to that. That's something we're really going to dig into very quickly. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Well, and tell me, because you went on then and now you have a kind of a big supplement company. Yeah. So was this a, in response to your line that you kind of went in that direction or. I'm curious why you went there. [00:31:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think you're right. After lying, my wife and I decided we had the opportunity to start businesses a while back, and we could do whatever we wanted to do, and our thought was, let's create products that help heal people that simple, whether it's healthy foods or supplements. We started in the healthy food realm. So in Boise, Idaho, here in Garden City, we built a manufacturing plant for superfood chocolate bars. And we were the first in the country to add things like astaxanthin, xeanthin Lutein, all these amazing ingredients into chocolate bars. That was 1215 years ago. And then we did healthy protein bars, low sugars, and it just evolved into cannabis, mushrooms, anything that would be highly functional and helpful to the human sense of well being and living a healthy life. So we've been on that mission and that journey ever since, some different formats, of course, in terms of types of foods or supplements. But here we are today doing functional mushrooms and using ayurvedic botanicals, traditional chinese herbs, things like that, and just doing what we can to help heal myself and ourselves and everyone else. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, I'm really. I know you have an amazing facility where you're creating these type of products and helping lots of people in so many different ways. So it's really. It's always fascinating to me to see kind of how something like Lyme or crisis, in a way, kind of drive us to our purpose. [00:33:27] Speaker C: Love that. You know, in the food side of the business, doctor K, I see so many people that have started a protein bar company or a snack because their children is gluten intolerant, and there's so many businesses that come out of that need on a small, local level, and then people take it and say, we want to share this with the world, and that's beautiful. I love that. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Wonderful. Well, is there any. So when you're kind of saying that you're testing for Lyme and it's coming negative, what labs are you using? What are you testing? Just plain and western blot or igenix or what? What do you. What do you do? [00:34:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I went, honestly, I went through both. Um, I don't know exactly what labs we went to, but I went through St. Luke's and St. Al's and just told them, I want different line, you know, lime titers, whatever the. The current best testing is at this point, and I can't remember what they are, but everything came back negative. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm curious if it would run. Yeah, I mean, igenix, obviously is good. I'm curious just to run, like, a tick borne panel and just see what shows up there. Did you run mold panel as well. [00:34:35] Speaker C: I have, but not in the past couple of years. It's been a while. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I'm curious, you know, if we do some of those and see what. See what comes up. [00:34:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I'd love to. [00:34:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for spending this time with me and. Yeah, so great to have you in my own neighborhood here. Yeah, you're. You're such an amazing resource and. Yeah. So thank you so much for spending this time. [00:35:03] Speaker C: Absolutely. My pleasure. Thank you for what you do. It's amazing to have you in our neighborhood and love what you're doing. And I look forward to chatting again soon. Thank you so much. [00:35:12] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:35:20] Speaker A: The information this podcast is for educational purposes only, and it's not designed to diagnose or treat any disease. I hope this podcast impacted you as it did me. Please subscribe so that you can be notified when new episodes are released. There are some excellent shows coming up that you do not want to miss. 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