[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative Lyme Solutions with Doctor Karl Feldt.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: I am so excited about the show that we have ahead of us. We have some phenomenal information that could save lives. You're gonna need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is jam packed, so don't step away.
Well, today I have the pleasure of having Doctor Joshua Hellman with me. And, yeah, he's a, he's Harvard trained and then an expert in integrative medicine. So I'm really excited about this chat.
[00:00:38] Speaker C: Thanks. It's great to be here. Doctor Michael and great, great to meet you. Yes.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: So, Doctor Joshua, I mean, here you started at Harvard, and what brought you into this path? I mean, that's not a very common path to choose, right?
[00:00:53] Speaker C: Yeah. So I started as a biochemistry nerd, I got two degrees in biochemistry, and initially ended up in emergency medicine, of all things. And, uh, a dozen years ago, uh, kind of for selfish reasons, I was 50 pounds overweight, had high blood pressure, and here I am, like the smart physician trained at Harvard. I couldn't lose the weight, and I couldn't figure out how to control my high blood pressure despite, you know, I had to go on, like, four different blood pressure medications. And it's like, why is this so difficult? And it was then, and I have to admit, and only then, for selfish reasons, I'm like, okay, let's start looking at other things because the traditional stuff that I was trained in isn't working.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: No, no. Yeah. And I mean, I know you are somebody that's an avid fasting. You know, you teach about fasting, you love fasting. And. Yeah, for, obviously, for the weight loss aspect, but also detoxification becomes such an additional powerful aspect of it, 100%.
[00:02:01] Speaker C: Unfortunately, a dozen years ago, I didn't know about the fasting. That's not part of the curriculum at Harvard medical school. I wish.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, let's talk a little bit about that. So how much, I'm always curious how much nutrition, fasting, these kind of techniques, how much of that did you learn at Harvard? And then also later you went on to, like, Cambridge, correct?
[00:02:27] Speaker C: True. Yeah. No, I got a master's degree, a one year masters in biochemistry at University of Cambridge in England. So, yeah, so I would say that most of what I learned about nutrition wasn't from Harvard Medical School, it was from my biochemistry training. But to answer your question, at Harvard Medical School, maybe we had a day or two on the different vitamins, and clinically, we learned how to prescribe intravenous TPN or parenteral nutrition, because I get it. As a physician, you write a prescription for it, so you better know how to do that. And it's what's tested. There's not a lot of testing on fasting or other nutrition techniques. So unfortunately, very little did I learn as part of my medical school training on nutrition.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it is sad. I mean, considering that nutrition, like in biochemistry, you know, that obviously, you know, nutrients drive the processes. And here you're all about studying health and studying, you know, physiology and disease management, but you're not looking at the core components that drives the processes.
[00:03:43] Speaker C: It's true. And looking back, we had a few lectures on prevention, but most, what was focused, most of the classes at Harvard Medical School were focused on treatment. Let's wait until you have a disease, a chronic disease, and then, and only then we'll start addressing it, which I think is, it's a silly way to do it, but we're still doing it now. That is the accepted approach in this country.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of. And then we were seeing it as kind of a stark example was during COVID when people were turned away from the hospitals because they were not as, it was not as strong of an emergency at that time. And if it could have done something prior to when theyre in dire straits, I mean, how much better would that have been?
[00:04:29] Speaker C: 100%. And there was some data that came out initially that based on someones health status, if theyre not overweight or obese, theyre less likely to get Covid and the bad effects of COVID But that was kind of after the first few months that was kind of ignored. Like, oh no, we're not going to focus on improving people's general health. So it's sad. It was an opportunity wasted.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: And so you started kind of recognizing you're overweight and you need to do something, and that kind of started you to look into more of the integrative space. And what kind of, what part of that fascinated you and what kind of caught your eye as a physician?
[00:05:10] Speaker C: Yeah, so what caught my eye was actually, it hit me over the head, actually.
I went to a conference a dozen years ago in Las Vegas, and I heard the CEO of Whole Foods at the time, John Mackey, and it was a small room of maybe 30 or 40 people. And he told the audience, including myself, if you go to my stores, whole Foods only buy 10% only by the whole fruits, vegetables and grains, ignore 90% of the things in my store. And I mean, that, that caught my attention because like, what CEO in his right mind is going to tell you not to buy the vast majority of his product. And it caught my attention and it reminded me of, say, the Framingham Heart study, where the subgroup of patients who basically ate just fruits and vegetables and grains had much less heart disease. And, but I've got to be upfront and honest. I was like, okay, so this is really good information, but you know, what, what's the least I can do? What's the least change I can make? So, you know, I cut out meat, but I kept, you know, eating cheese and fish and, you know, other high fat, high toxin foods. And, you know, I definitely improved, but literally, it took several years, several steps for me to lose all the weight and to reverse my blood pressure. So, uh, you know, when I talk to people about prevention and changing their lifestyle, I say, you know, don't be like me and, and take years to make these changes. But if it does take you years, I def, I definitely can commiserate because that was my pathway.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: And then later on, you, you also then start to learn quite a bit and manage, you know, things like mold, lime.
I mean, what drove you in that direction? Because that's like an additional leap that not a lot of people take.
[00:07:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it's interesting, and it's funny. I have to credit doctor Spinogle, who had a clinic in Tampa, Florida, and I had a friend of a friend at the time. I was looking for more of an integrative approach as opposed to emergency medicine. Not that emergency medicine is fun, that's what I'm board certified in the. But I was like, you know what? I want to use something where I can use this complimentary integrative approach. And they said, oh, you need to talk to doctor Spinagl in his office in Tampa, or Oldsmar. And I did, and I interviewed there, and he was telling me all these things. This was like seven years ago. He was telling me all these things about Lyme disease and mold toxicity and biofilm. And I was like, wait, I hadn't heard about biofilm since Harvard. And its taught us basic biochemistry. And he was showing me these cool tests, but given my biochemistry background, I was like, actually, this makes a lot of sense, but no one in clinical medicine is talking about this. And fortunately, he offered me a job and I started working for him. And it was so cool watching patients get better from chronic diseases that traditionally there is no cure for.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: So for the listeners out there, I mean, a lot of people have heard about biofilm, but in your. How would you explain biofilm sure.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: So just taking a step back, biofilm is kind of what it sounds like. It's a biologic film. If you've ever driven past a lake or a pond with kind of like a green covering on the top, that is a biofilm. We all have biofilm on our skin, in our mouth. That's the reason we brush our teeth. Hopefully, a couple of times a day, is to get rid of the biofilm. But what I realized working at Spinoglos clinic was that we have biofilm. Biofilm can go anywhere in the body. It can go in the bloodstream, it can go in the brain.
These bugs are equal opportunity. And the biofilm is specifically a protective coating that the lime spirochete, or whatever bug we're talking about, will spin to protect itself. And within that, biofilm can be trapped not just the original bacteria that spins the biofilm to begin with, but lots of other parasites, viruses and toxins, petrochemicals, manmade toxins. It's amazing, this soup. And I, and then I realized that this is almost like tree rings, where when you're starting to treat patients and bust up the biofilm, it's in reverse chronological order. And we would verify that with testing. We would look at patients blood and urine after starting the biofilm busting, and we would see all these new infections and toxins come out of the biofilm. And again, it's a concept that I learned about theoretically in medical school, but clinically, unfortunately, I don't think many physicians have put this together in their practice.
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[00:12:16] Speaker B: So you're saying kind of, that you're watching these things after you're busting kind of layers of the biofilm. How were you monitoring? What were you looking at, you know, to see these things that were coming out?
[00:12:29] Speaker C: Yeah. So we would at least every month, but sometimes every couple of weeks, we would check urine tests for mold toxins, for manmade chemicals like ddts and PCB's. And we would also be testing for the immunological response, antibodies to different infections. And initially, it was crazy. Like, you could take someone with, with bad Lyme disease, but the initial test, the blood tests, and the urine test would all come back negative, and they would be like, well, this doesn't make any sense. How could I have Lyme disease and my initial testing is negative? And we would explain that the Lyme is and other infections and toxins are hiding in the biofilm, so that's why they're not showing up. But then as soon as we would treat them with things like iv glutathione, iv phosphatylcholine, colonics, things like that, it would, these things would start in IV antibiotics, these things would start opening up and become positive. And I'd say, like, look, we didn't do this to you. This was actually in your body.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: So you're actually, instead of going after it, kind of with, you know, doing killers, you know, you then started working with detoxification like the phosphatidylcholine, glutathione, maybe alpha lipoic acid, things like that.
[00:13:54] Speaker C: True. Yeah. We would go through it low and slow because the patients we were getting at our clinic were referred into us from all around the world. And literally, they'd already seen a dozen or two or three dozen experts. And often they were worse. After really smart people, apparently smart people were treating them, they would come in worse. And the sad thing, and this would happen every couple of weeks, is that people say, you're our last hope. You better take us. I mean, at one point we had a waiting list of three or four months. It's like, no, you need to get me in right away because you're our last hope. We've been to so many other places, and if you can't fix us, we're just going to give up hope.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it's sad. I mean, it's such a horrific illness, and it can really bring a person to a place of no hope.
And like you're saying the majority of people going through that journey, they've been bouncing around 2030 different doctors until they find a solution.
[00:14:57] Speaker C: And it was worse than that. I would see very often that this disease process would split up families where half the family would be very supportive and say, no, we understand this is an infection. These are mold toxins. But the other half would say, oh, I don't believe this. You're just crazy. You're choosing to be very weak and not go to work. You're choosing. You want to be sick.
I would know from what I've seen that, no, you've got objective moldoxin. You've got a bio weapon in your body. You're not making it up. But convincing the other half of the family sometimes was not possible. So it was really sad, Brian.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: And especially when it's been going on 1015, 2030 years for some people, it is hard then for, like a spouse or somebody to kind of be there. And exactly what you're saying. It's kind of splitting up, creating divorces, creating. And I hear that frequently other people that I interview on this show that that's taking place. Yeah. So that that's. It's really upsetting what, what it's doing in the family dynamic.
[00:16:04] Speaker C: 100%. And then some of the sickest patients we would see would be teenagers, you know, and. And what a choice where you're basically, sure you can, instead of seeking treatment, you can go to school, but most of our patients would have brain fog. So, great. You're physically in school, but you're not going to remember anything. You're not going to remember anything you learned, and you're not going to remember the social parts either. So that's why I would push, no, this, this is not something you, you do another time, you know, if you have true brain fog, if your brain is not working. We need to fix your brain first before you do anything else. And. But, you know, when I, when I started there six, seven years ago, some of the patients would be with us, literally for a full year of daily iv treatment. What made the difference were iv exosomes, iv after we had done detoxification, so that patients would only need to be with us, say, three or four months.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: So, yes. So talk to me a little bit. Kind of. What was it that you saw that was kind of that had the highest impact on these individuals? So you're talking, starting with the detoxification, like the glutathione phosphatidylcholine.
[00:17:18] Speaker C: Right. And patients would receive at least two colonics a week.
And I know it sounds gross, but often most of our patients would come up, stopped up so that their bowels weren't working. They were literally not absorbing any nutrients or medications or supplements we or anything else anyone else would give them. So that you need a functioning GI tract. And was also to be initially bizarre is that you would actually smell, from the results of the colonic, the specific toxins, if, for example, a patient had worked in a gas station, or you would actually smell the diesel or the petroleum as a result of the colonics. So I knew we were actually onto the right track.
Very different than what traditional medicine embraces right now.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: And talk to me a little bit about kind of the interaction between. So you're talking about toxins, like chemicals and heavy metals, and then we're looking at the pathogens in itself. You know, what is the relationship? I mean, how did these toxins, heavy metals, impact the Lyme disease?
[00:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think that theyre definitely related, but as a direct connection, the Lyme spirochete would spin this biofilm, but within this biofilm would be trapped parasites that would specifically sequester and hold on to heavy metals to use as a weapon against other bugs. And again, this is a war, a chemical warfare that existed long before humans existed. So what would happen is the Lyme spirochete would suppress someone's immune system, and then other toxins trapped in the biofilm, the PCB's, the ddts, etcetera, and the mold toxins. See, these are, these are, many of these are fatty toxins that will last in the body for 10, 20, 30 years in the brain and other fatty tissue. So you actually needed to do something active to get them out. So, you know, the classic stories. We would see a patient with Lyme disease who had literally been on IV rocephin or another antibiotic for a year and didn't get better. But unfortunately, all the other doctor was doing was IV rocefin. Nothing else to bust up the biofilm or to push out the fatty toxins. So I learned that you need to have a whole, you need to be doing many things because you're literally dealing with a dozen different toxins and infections. And I see that now in my current practice with Alzheimer's, where it's often the same infections and toxins that are causing elderly people's brain function not to be there. So to me, what's amazing is that we have all these different diseases. The root causes are very much, often the same, so that, you know, whether it's Alzheimer's or Lewy body dementia, you know, there are papers that document within the Lewy bodies, they're finding Lyme spirochetes. So I find that, unfortunately, traditional medicine have, has their blinders on. And, you know, I've got nothing against the pharmaceutical industry in general. We need good medications. But unfortunately, the approach so far has been, lets keep everything simple. And, you know, if you have a simple disease as a simple condition, thats fine. But I find when youre dealing with multiple toxins and infections in the brain, you need multiple tools coordinated at the same time. Youre not going to find one, just one magic bullet thats going to fix everything.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: Yeah, because one of the biggest issues with Lyme is obviously the neurological impact. So we know how people can't remember. I mean, they drive in the same town that they lived in for 30 years, and all of a sudden they don't know how to get home. And so we know the neurological impact of Lyme. So what you're saying is that there's, you know, knowing that, then dementia, Alzheimer's have a strong correlation with Lyme as well, 100%.
[00:21:53] Speaker C: And with both conditions, you can get what's called a PET scan with neuro quantitative imaging, and you can actually look at the different parts of the brain in terms of activity and see where the toxins and infections are. And when you're talking about memory, you know, there's a specific part of the frontal lobe where four second, or you're just quick attention, memory is going to be located and you can look for problems there. And then the four day memory, the medial temporal lobe, you can actually visualize this if you get a PET scan on patient's brain with, with neural quant imaging. So, uh, yeah, so it was great to have an objective test, you know, and basically prove like, no, you're not making this up, you're literally parts of your brain are not working like they should.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: That's fascinating. And so when you're done seeing, if you're doing this PET scan and you're seeing the areas of the brain that's not working, how do you then go about finding what it is that's interfering with that area?
[00:22:57] Speaker C: Yeah. So one of the quick things on the PET scan is if it was just toxins, a fatty toxin, normally what it would be is a uniform lowering of activity, because these fatty toxins, they don't care. They're going to go wherever there's fat. And the brain has fat, so it's pretty uniform. But if it's infection, these infections, they like to have a community. They're like, hey, the lion spirochetes over here are like, hey, let's come join the funeral. And so you kind of see peaks and valleys of activity in the patients with specifically biofilm or infections. And many patients would have both.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: And so when you see this, then, I mean, it sounds like no matter what, it is good then to start to kind of move with the detoxification, because it's almost like in that biofilm, you have these, the parabens, you have the tollenes, you have, I mean, all the different chemicals and heavy metals in addition to the infections. So if you start to kind of move some of these toxins out, then I would assume that that is what's kind of breaking up the biofilm in some fashion.
[00:24:10] Speaker C: Yes. And the key is you need to be doing detoxification both before and during the process using iv glutathione colonics. Because one of the worst things you could do is actually bust up this biofilm too much too quickly. Because once you rev up the immune system and say, hey, let's, you know, go after this biofilm, you can't turn it off. So I definitely saw patients, not a lot in our clinic, but before they had come here, where they actually got worse, you know, they were started on high doses of systemic enzymes, which bust biofilm, and then they would also get ozone and high dose vitamin C. And again, all those are great for busting biofilm, but this is not the case where, you know, if a little bit is good, a lot is better, because unfortunately, these toxins and infections often build up over decades. And if you're about to release them all at once, it can be a catastrophe. You know, the last thing you want to do is, you know, give a patient with memory problems, now paralysis, you know, that that would be a bad thing.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: So what is your strategy? So you, I mean, you work then with the Lyme and the chronic infections, and now I know you've gone more into, towards the neurological part with the dementia, Alzheimer's. So when a patient comes into you, what is your strategy to correct that?
[00:25:40] Speaker C: Yeah, so specifically, you're right, I'm focusing on Alzheimer's and similar types of dementia, Parkinson's with dementia. And so basically, my approach is a layered approach, because, as I mentioned, you're normally dealing with a dozen or even 30 or 50 different underlying root causes. But what I do first is we go over and we make changes to lifestyle. We improve their diet, we make sure they get better sleep, we see if they can exercise, we reduce their stress, and then, and only then do we add smart supplementation, we'll add the right antibiotics, we will, we will do hemoperfusion to filter out some of the, hopefully as many of the toxins as possible. And I'm really excited. There's a new FDA approved drug for compassionate use that we're using with good results, intravenously to decrease the inflammation throughout the body, but specifically the brain. And we've seen great results even after the first dose. And unlike some of the other drugs on the market, we're not seeing the brain bleeds and the brain swelling in a third of the patients that some of these other, newer drugs are seeing. So I'm really optimistic and excited to share with the public that there is a solution to Alzheimer's and similar dementias. But to be honest, when I speak to the general public, about a quarter or a third of people say, well, Doctor Josh, you don't know what you're talking about, because we all know there isn't a cure for Alzheimer's. And I'm like, no, no, no, you're wrong. There is, and I'm doing it. But the truth is, I started doing this six or seven years ago with Doctor Spinogle in Tampa, Florida. And that's why I can say with assured eats, like we treated hundreds of patients and got amazing results, and I'm continuing to do that. So it's really exciting.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: So what kind of expectation can an individual have in regards to, and you're absolutely, medically, there's no way to reverse Alzheimer's. I mean, if you're able to slow down the process, then that is great. But you're actually saying that there are ways to maybe reverse the impact in some fashion.
[00:28:02] Speaker C: 100%. And what Im saying is the further advanced the Alzheimers or the dementia is, the harder it is, the longer it takes. But what Im saying is that obviously Im not making promises, but what ive seen so far is were able to do it.
And this is really exciting.
Um, the general public doesn't know about this and that, and that's, that's why I was so excited to, to get on your podcast here.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: And what are some of the, the effect? I mean, if you don't mind sharing just some patient successes, you know, it'd just be cool to see what, what's possible.
[00:28:41] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. So, so for example, had one gentleman who, with Alzheimer's and, and after, after treatment, you know, he had, you know, he couldn't work and, you know, he was, he was in his mid sixties and, and after we, after the treatment, we, he had good memory again. He decided to go back to work. But to me, the most touching thing is that his wife, he'd only been married for like five years, you know, she shared that, that she is seeing, seeing a brand new side of him that she never knew. So, so, yeah, so giving people back not just their memory, but their social interactions, you know, it's, it's having a huge impact, not just on the patient, but their family, who, you know, now they can, can actually have emotional connections because, yeah, with brain problems, it's not just the memory is the whole social connection.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: And the thing is that when you stop, it has a domino effect. When you stop having those connections, then nerves and neuroplasticity is decreased more and more. So if you can then establish that again, that will promote more neural pathways and neural growth and connection.
[00:30:03] Speaker C: And that's one of the key things we've seen is once we're giving treatments to reverse and the Alzheimers, we need to make sure that our patients are actually interacting with people, not computers or screens. Theres something magical. Its like when were a little kid, how do you socialize someone? Unfortunately, in modern society, often its, oh, we need to babysit you with a computer screen. Lets stay away from that as much as we can because theres something magical about interactions with humans. And once you've given someone back, regenerated their brain cells, you still need to train them. And the best way to train them is with human interaction.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: So with all the kind of Alzheimer's patients that you worked with, percentage wise, how many would you say would have like a Lyme or co infection type of connection to the Alzheimer's? Evan?
[00:31:00] Speaker C: Yeah. So in my experience so far, I would say it's been over 50%.
But let me say though, that you're dealing with when you're talking about underlying causes. You could easily have 50 different underlying causes. And infection may only be, it may not even be in the top five. It might be number seven. The biggest risk factor that has come out of our studies and other people's studies on using artificial intelligence on Alzheimer's, the biggest risk factor turns out to be inadequate deep sleep. There's something magical about deep sleep where the brain can recharge, get rid of amyloid plaque, and start regenerating and consolidating memory.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: So how do you establish deep sleep for somebody? What are some of your keys? Because obviously, pharmaceuticals. I mean, yes, they are sleeping, but, you know, is that as restorative?
[00:32:01] Speaker C: Yeah. So, so there, there you also have to look at the root cause. You know, if they don't, if they don't have enough serotonin, sure. You could, pharmacologically or using supplements, increase their serotonin level. Um, you know, melatonin is one way you can. There's also the whole concept of sleep hygiene. And in order to trigger sleep, you want to lower the. The temperature, and right. Right before you go to sleep. And one of the hacks to do that is to jump into a sauna right before or an hour before you want to go to sleep, because if you increase the core temperature in your body, your brain will flip a switch and basically lower your core temperature to fight the heat. And then if you leave the sauna, boom, suddenly your core temperature has gone down. And then it's time your body will trigger to sleep. But you actually have to do a sleep study to find out what's causing the sleep. For example, if it's sleep apnea, there's a brand new device that we're partnered with that can basically retrain the breathing apparatus to decrease the sleep apnea. So, again, not every problem with sleep is the same, and you need to individualize the treatment, but it's definitely important to do so.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: So, yeah, and so sleep apnea is a big, obviously, that's a big issue. And a lot of people, they hate their CPAP machines.
So tell me about this device. Is this something that they need to be calibrated by a doctor, or is that, I mean, how is that available?
[00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah, so it's a, we're partnered with. It's a new company.
I can't really talk about the details, but if someone is interested, they can reach out to
[email protected]. dot.
And it's basically a device that will electronically train your jaw muscles to help relax, to allow air in when you're sleeping.
And I agree, the existing device for sleep apnea are not particularly comfortable. And frankly, I always worry that you're setting up potential source of infection with these devices. But to me, the other exciting thing is there's this device I just alluded to briefly. There is a specific EMF mat that will increase the microcirculation that can also help with sleep. So I would say either you basically want to find a sleep expert if you're dealing with Alzheimer's or similar dementias, because sleep is one of the most important things you could focus on.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: That's fascinating. And another tool that a lot of people are curious about is the SOT. I know it's not something that you use currently, but you have experience with. I just wanted people to be aware of what it is and the potential of it.
[00:35:28] Speaker C: Yeah. So sot therapy.
To me, it's so cool to even be talking about this. Cause this is actually personal medicine. This is what you do is you identify specific infections, whether viral or bacterial, in the patient. And those specific infections, you make what's called an antisense RNA.
You basically fingerprint the DNA or the RNA of that specific infection, and then you make a magic bullet against that specific, uh, there's nucleic acid, and it's, it's very specific. And then you, you basically give them that antisense and you, you can fight their infections that way. And. But I warn people, if you go down this route, um, you know, make sure just, you're definitely going to be busting biofilm, so you make sure you're also doing detoxification. But the fact that we have molecular medicine that we can treat not someone in general, but specifically you and the specific, the DNA RNA of your specific infections, we can go against individual bugs is, to me, it's powerful. It's something, know, decades ago when I was in training. So, yeah, someday we'll have this. Well, we have this now. I mean, I was using a company out of Europe, but the fact that this technology is available now today, is so exciting.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's really, really incredible.
And then you were talking a little bit about exosomes as well. Yeah. Asaf. So now you've done kind of the cleaning up and you're done. And then I would assume more in that, uh, post Lyme state, so to say where you need to repair and regenerate and heal from all the damage, is. Is that kind of where exosomes step in or how do you use them?
[00:37:32] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I like exosomes in, in the post Lyme state, but I'll be upfront. We would often not wait for the post, uh, Lyme state. We would get started, you know, maybe even after a couple weeks of detoxification. And the reason we had better, I think, had better results with exosomes and stem cells is that exosomes are not alive now. They're from stem cells or cells, but they are basically a collection of 500 different growth factors. So if you introduce them into a patient with lots of toxins and infections, they're not going to be killed. As opposed to, if you put stem cells into a body, some, some bloodstream of someone with high levels of infections and toxins, what happens in many cases is those stem cells get killed, which won't necessarily hurt you, but it's not going to help you, as opposed to the exosomes, you know, here are these growth factors. There's nothing to hurt them, and they can go literally wherever the body needs them. And it was so cool that not only would we see improvement of brain function, but if a patient had, you know, bad arthritis of the knee. Yeah, suddenly their knee doesn't hurt anymore, you know, so it was so cool seeing that the basic, basically the body is smart. It knows you just need to give it the right tools and it can fix them for you.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: And so is, is that something that you, working with Alzheimer and dementia now that, that's part of your toolbox quite a bit now as well?
[00:39:08] Speaker C: Definitely, yeah.
Intravenous exosomes, even though it is still considered experimental? Yes, it's part of our regenerative toolkit, along with lots of other things like ozone and. Sure.
[00:39:24] Speaker B: And how important. I mean, diet was one of the things that you were kind of looking at when you did your initial leap from traditional medicine. So how important is diet in this process?
[00:39:39] Speaker C: Diet is huge, and I would say it's one of the initial things you need to do. Many of our patients would have black mold, like trichothecene embedded in the gut, preventing absorption, and you would also get what's called leaky gut.
Now, it turns out it's the same tight junctions in the gut as the brain. So, so if you have leaky gut, you normally also have a leaky brain.
So. And. And you have to heal the gut. I'll be upfront with you. It can be extremely difficult to heal someone's gut, and. But it's important. And you keep trying and, um, get nutrition. Nutrition is key. The last thing you want to be doing is introducing new toxins into the gut. When you're trying to get rid of them.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: So in your mind, what would be kind of optimum diet to follow, both for Lyme, for neurological, for Alzheimer's dementia, what is kind of the best direction?
[00:40:42] Speaker C: So my opinion, and again, I understand that most people in this space, or both, both the Alzheimer's space and the Lyme space don't necessarily agree with me, but my reading of the literature, the best place to start would be basically whole plants without added salt, oil and sugar, because we know from the studies that salt, oil and sugar will actually damage blood vessels in your, your immune system. Having said that, I've also had patients where, you know, just trying to give them plants, they, they didn't have any absorption, and the only thing, there might be only one food that they could eat because their gut was so destroyed. So I understand there's not going to be a one size fits all approach to the gut, but in my experience and working at true north with fasting patients, often their Lyme disease, other chronic diseases, went away when we gave them a water fast.
If we could. Now, obviously, if someone is skinny and has no excess fat, you can't water fast them. But when we could, their symptoms, let's say we did a 30 day water fast, their symptoms would go away completely. And then when we would start feeding again. Them again, yeah, then their symptoms would come back. So to me, or hopefully not come back, but it would also depend on what you're refeeding them with. And we would normally just use plants and avoiding added salt, oil and sugar. So that, that's why this is real world experience where I've seen it work. And to me, though, if these symptoms, if these autoimmune type symptoms go away, when you take away the food source for the bugs in the gut, it makes sense to me that the source of these problems has to be the bugs in the gut.
[00:42:35] Speaker B: When you say oil, because some people say, well, how about flaxseed oil? How about coconut oil? How about olive oil? I mean, these are all supposed to be good for you. So are those to be avoided?
[00:42:48] Speaker C: I think they are. Sure, you can make an argument that olive oil is better for you than butter or some of these other oils, but regardless of what were talking about, oil is a highly processed food. To make a gallon of olive oil, you need 500 olives. Our ancestors, our genes havent changed that much in the last few thousand years. Our ancestors didnt have access to large amounts of oils. If you look at american consumption, we're actually eating 1000 times more oil than the average American did just 100 years ago.
And a lot of it's omega six pro inflammatory.
But if you actually look at the scientific research in people after you eat a fatty meal, specifically we're talking about, including oil there shows damage to blood vessels. The mechanism is our normally nice, smooth, red blood cells will get spikes from exposure to the oil. Also, if I draw your blood after you eat an oily meal, I'm going to see what's called sludge bludge.
When you actually look at the blood, there's going to be a whole layer. Half of it's going to be a yellow or white fatty layer, and there's something called rouleau formation. It's just very viscous. Again, this is not a diet that our ancestors had access to in any amount. And, and yes, I know from a marketing standpoint, they're going to say, oh, yeah, olive oil is the greatest, or, you know, whatever they're trying to promote, you know, but, but unfortunately, they're not looking out for your health. And from my perspective, I would avoid adding salt, oil and sugar. But I know from a realistic standpoint, that means you got to be very careful, you know, when you go out to eat. You know, our society doesn't agree with what I'm saying. I'm just saying, looking at it from the scientific standpoint, and again, people can ignore the science. And, you know, I've had people where I said, look, you have a choice. You can change your diet or you're going to need to get an operation to take your gallbladder out. And a lot of people said, no, just take my gallbladder out. I don't, I don't need it. Well, actually, you do need your gallbladder. But again, our society is more focused on what's the immediate thing we can do, what's the quick procedure. Let's just take a step back and focus on prevention. So, no, I'm not a fan of any oil added to the diet, with one small exception. Omega three s. I find my patients with Alzheimer's need much higher doses of omega three. And I normally recommend algae oil, adding 3 grams a day. But that's not olive oil.
[00:45:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting. I mean, you're mentioning salt, sugar and oil. I mean, all three of those we compared to, looking back early, 19 hundreds. And now the quantity of these that we're eating now that we didn't at that time is just tremendously higher.
[00:46:04] Speaker C: Right. And again, the scientific studies show that after you eat a salty meal or a sugary meal, you're also doing damage to your blood vessels. So it's more than just a, you know, historical thing. It's actually there, there is a mechanism. This isn't just some theoretical thing, but I find this research is kind of ignored. You know, even it's published, no one wants to know about this. Even, even in medical school, they're not teaching this, I don't think, and blood.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: Vessels obviously, I mean, that's where all nutrients being transported, that's how you transport things. So if you damage your pathways, how to move things from one spot to another, that's going to obviously impede your health in so many different ways. And then we talked about the brain.
It's even more sensitive than any other.
[00:46:52] Speaker C: Area of the body, 100%. You know, the brain is extremely vascular. It was Doctor Sydenham, this english physician, decades, I'm sorry, centuries ago, I think in the 16 hundreds mentioned, you are as healthy as your blood vessels. So you want to protect your blood vessels, right?
[00:47:13] Speaker B: Well, Doctor Haltman, this has been wonderful. So how can people get a hold of you? How can they find the resources that you offer and consult with you?
[00:47:25] Speaker C: Sure. Basically three ways. One is my website is just doctor Josh Dash.com, and you can also reach out to me on my email address, which is doctor
[email protected]. and then finally, I'm on all the social medias under green brainsmd. Green brains with an smdgest.
[00:47:51] Speaker B: I love it. Love it. Well, Doctor Josh has been wonderful. Thank you so much.
[00:47:56] Speaker C: Thank you. It's been great to meet you.
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