Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative Lime Solutions with Dr. Carl Feld. I am so excited about the show.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: That we have ahead of us. We have some phenomenal information that could save lives.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: I am Dr. Michael Carlfelt, and with me, I have my co host, Tanya Hobo.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: You're going to need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is impact, so, yeah, don't step away.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: So excited. Let's go ahead and get this started.
Welcome to Integrative Lime Solutions with Dr. Carl felt. And today we have with us was kind of super exciting to learn this. A former singer and songwriter from Nashville, Alicia. She's here. She's going to share her journey. She's also a newlywed. So I just wanted to say congratulations. I'm glad you got your life back and found your love and can move on and share your journey with us to give hope to those that really need it right now. So thank you so much for joining us.
[00:01:10] Speaker D: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: That's so excited. Just getting married. So how are you loving married life?
[00:01:19] Speaker D: It's been really great. We've been together seven years already, so it was a long time coming, but we finally solidified it and everything's been really beautiful. So we just got married in November, so it's still fairly new, but it doesn't feel too different.
We've had a really long, great relationship, and it was about time to happen.
[00:01:41] Speaker C: That's awesome.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: That's so wonderful.
I'm curious. So you're a singer songwriter, and then you've dealt with lime. Did you do both at the same time? I mean, were you struggling with lime while also performing?
[00:01:57] Speaker D: I was. So my story starts off when I was really young, living in Knoxville, Tennessee. My sister and I would go out in the creeks and woods and we would build forts and play, and my dad was pulling ticks off of our head a lot when we were younger, and I'm 37, so this was many years ago. And my parents at that time had never even heard of Lyme disease, didn't know ticks could cause such an illness, and so we didn't think twice about it and just went on. And I was one of those types of children where I was healthy, I was athletic, I was healthy on the outside, but I also got sick very easily. I had a low immune system. I was always catching colds or strep was a big deal.
And so I'm pretty sure I contracted Lyme when I was younger, and it laid dormant in my system, and it didn't make itself known until I was 27. But I struggled with health issues growing up. I missed a lot of school from not feeling good. I had really bad mono in 6th grade, and so I wouldn't say I had it easy, but I got through until everything kind of went downhill really fast.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Just mostly fatigue in high school, or were there other kind of symptoms as well?
[00:03:30] Speaker D: Catching everything under the sun, always on antibiotics. I didn't come from a holistic based family or a natural family, and so I was always going to the doctor and getting antibiotics and getting put on all these medicines, which probably wrecked my gut, wrecked my immunity, and I wasn't eating well and things like that.
It affected me in high school, in middle school, by missing a lot of days and things like that. But again, I still got by. I was involved in the community, and all of that jazz.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Did that improve, or was it just continually hard and then just got worse?
[00:04:20] Speaker D: So I think it started to get.
My sickness started to show itself after. Okay, so here's my story.
I was a singer songwriter in Nashville, and I had been flying back and forth from Nashville to Hawai to visit a partner at the time, someone that I was dating. And one time during the night, I look down, and there's a huge centipede, like, this big on my leg, and it was a venomous one, and it bit my leg. I still have a scar from it. I had the red circle around it, but I wasn't super aware of Lyme disease as much as I am now. And so after that bite was when I experienced my first migraine, and when I really started to see things kind of go more downhill. So if it lay dormant in my system from being young, it showed itself after this centipede bite.
[00:05:25] Speaker C: Interesting.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And it can do that. It's all kind of like the bucket effect, where you have the initial infection, the lime that's laying there, and then you just add another stressor, which could be the toxins, and from the centipede and them together, then all of a sudden triggers all these other manifestations of symptoms.
[00:05:51] Speaker D: That's kind of what happened. And this is really crazy, but both of my sisters, they're both older than me, they're both diagnosed with Lyme as well, and they were both positive. And so once they started getting their diagnosis, the doctor that was seeing them were like, you should probably test your youngest sister. And so I went in, got tested, and I had four bands. I had Epstein bar activated mTHf bar, which made detoxing really difficult.
I had a lot of viruses pop up. I had no idea I had all of this. I was just getting by as a young 20 year old. And once I found out the diagnosis, I think mentally everything shifted, and I really started feeling the intensity of the line.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: And it could have also been like, once you know it in your head that you can acknowledge that you don't feel right, you may not feel right, and you just kind of brush it off, because, I don't know, maybe I'm just supposed to feel this way if you don't know any different. Right.
[00:07:01] Speaker D: Right. And also, too, that relationship at the time ended really traumatically, and I think that contributed to the effects of feeling Lyme so intensely.
So, yeah, I got my diagnosis at 27, and I saw both of my sisters go through, like, the antibiotic route. They both had pick lines. They went through some really intense protocols with the doctor that they were seeing, and they would get better and then they wouldn't. They would get better and then they wouldn't. So when it came to me, I thought, I want to find something that's going to work, because if it's not working for them, I can't imagine that it's going to work for me. So I did not get a pick line put in, I did not use antibiotics, but to each their own, right? Everybody has their own healing path, but that wasn't for me. And I decided to just research and research natural, holistic, integrative medicines and ways to heal yourself.
And I had a friend in California, I was living in Nashville at the time, working in music, and I had a friend in California who worked in cannabis medicine who was telling know, oh, people are using cannabis for cancer and other disease states, and maybe you should try it for your line. You just never know. And at the time, I was willing to try anything, right? I was feeling such intense pain, and just daily activities were somewhat impossible at times, so I was willing to try it. And so I flew to California, and I was introduced to this oil that comes in a syringe. It's called rso oil. It stands for Rick Simpson oil. And I grabbed a bunch of that, and I started dosing myself, learning to titrate, really kind of guinea pigging it on myself.
What I noticed was that my pain was reduced so much, my shaking reduced, I was able to work better, I was able to sleep at night. So all of these symptoms from Lyme were really lessened from the cannabis, and it truly changed my life. And that in itself made me leave Nashville, quit music, and I wanted to move to California and work in cannabis medicine, because if it can help me that much, then I know for sure it could help someone else. And that's all I wanted to do at that time, was help other people that were going through something like Lyme disease.
[00:09:48] Speaker C: Wow.
We hear so many people on our show that talk about their Lyme journey just puts them in a whole nother path on life.
[00:09:57] Speaker D: Oh, my God.
[00:09:58] Speaker C: That is crazy.
And this is going to sound silly. So when you talk about cannabis, do, I admit, for me, too, but for the listeners, people think of cannabis back in the day, they think of pot or you get high from smoking this stuff. I know that they have things that don't make you high, things that just. It's the herb of the plant that goes into your body. Can you explain a little bit about what you use and the effects that it had on you? Because I know, I'm sure a lot of people are kind of scared away from it, because, like me, I think you smoke this and then you hallucinate and you're crazy and how do you function and all of that stuff? So I would like for you to elaborate on that a little bit, if you would.
[00:10:45] Speaker D: Absolutely. So I can't tell you that it's not going to get you high. The route that I took, I was high, but I was in a controlled state.
So what I did is I started off really little. So when you dose RSO, the recommended first dose is a half the size of a piece of rice, because RSO is concentrated cannabis plant all broken down into a thick, tar like oil. And you sublingually use it, rub it on your gums or under your tongue, and you allow it to absorb into your system. That way it will give you a high, but it has such heavy other cannabinoids, like CBD, CBG, other things like that in it, that are so anti inflammatory that I personally believe brought my inflammation markers down to allow my body to finally begin to heal, if that makes any sense. And so I guinea pigged myself and I titrated myself up. Now, we as a species, have something in our body called the endocannabinoid system, which allows cannabis to come in and act as a medicine. We have receptors all over our bodies, and we also can build tolerances to it. So let's say the first week you're on RSO, you do feel a little bit stoned, but you're only doing it at night, like right before bed.
And then you build a tolerance to it, it starts to get less and less and less. And then it starts to become very normal.
A lot of people compare it to, after being on it for two to three weeks, it kind of feels like maybe taking a benadryl, you're not hallucinating, you're not seeing anything crazy.
It feels pretty normal, and it's also helping a lot with your symptoms, specifically mine.
And so I was all about it. But you know what? Growing up in the south, raised in the church, I was terrified. Right? All you hear about is, it's the devil's lettuce. Like, this is bad. This is drugs you're going to go to. Like, that's all you hear. But when I visited California and I experienced the shift in my body, I thought there has to be other open doors to allow people to experience this type of relief.
And so it's not as scary as what people think. But I also suggest working with a professional. Right? You need to work with your doctor, a cannabis specialist like myself, someone who really knows the plant and who can really dose you correctly, make sure there's no interactions with any other drugs you're taking, things like that. But it's really not as scary as you think. And cannabis, to me, it's beautiful. God put it on the earth. If you use it organically and for the right reasons, why not?
[00:13:45] Speaker B: So you became a cannabis specialist after?
[00:13:49] Speaker D: Did I? Did I went to college for it and everything. Surprisingly, in California, at USD, they offer cannabis medicine and healthcare programs, and I got to learn from cannabis doctors from all over the world on how they dose their cancer patients, or Parkinson's, or Alzheimer's, all these different disease states, and how cannabis can really help their symptoms, not necessarily heal, but help their symptoms. In my opinion, I would rather take something all natural than take a pain pill or a pharmaceutical. And again, that's just my preference.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: So would you mind? Because Lyme is known as a great mimicker, so it will obviously show up as many different diseases, be it Ms, be it Parkinson's, be it dementia, be it cancer. I mean, there's so many different ways, or RA or whatever. So how would be kind of a good strategy for an individual generally to go about whether they're dealing with maybe it's Lyme related MS or Lyme related RA or Lyme related cancer, even, and all the pain from that. So what would be kind of a good kind of general direction strategy to go about it?
[00:15:18] Speaker D: Well, first and foremost, working with a professional, like I said, making sure that you're with someone who knows that the medicine you're taking is grown organically. That's number one, because right now, with it being a fad in cannabis, there's a lot of grows happening that aren't organic. And so making sure that there's no pesticides used in the grow, there's no hardeners, no fillers. Making sure you're really getting the raw plant is important.
So that's number one. Also number two, making sure you're in a legal state. Right. All of us listening, we may not be in a legal state where we're able to take that medicine. That's unfortunately why I had to leave Nashville, Tennessee, leave my family at the time, and move to California. So that's the first two.
Also just start diving into videos on YouTube, diving into documentaries on Netflix. Really just start to get aware of plant medicine, like, looking into other holistic ways to heal from the earth, like opening yourself up to that, if that resonates with you.
And then from there, if you check all those boxes off, I would say it's worth giving it a shot. There's so many ways to consume cannabis now. Most people think that cannabis is you roll a joint and you sit there and you smoke it, and you're getting so stoned, and you're high.
My personal view on it is that it's used as a medicine. There's so many different delivery systems. You don't have to smoke it if you don't want to smoke it. There are tinctures, there's transdermal deliveries, there's sublingual deliveries, there's capsules. There's so many different ways to consume cannabis if you don't like the smell, per se. A lot of people I know are like, oh, I hate the smell of cannabis. So, yeah, I would say whatever you feel comfortable with starting in and whatever resonates with you, that's kind of where you start, and you start off really slow. You have to titrate cannabis up, because obviously, if you take too much, you don't want to feel too overly stoned.
Yeah. So working with the professionals, really important.
Yeah. So that's kind of why I have a job.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: That's so cool.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: Right. I didn't even know this was a thing, going to college for it and everything. But I do like how you said just a minute ago that whether or not it's ridding our illness, it can alleviate some of the issues that you're dealing with. And I know that people can struggle. They can be so sick, so brain fog in so much pain. Like, they can't even focus on treating or trying to organize their pills to take their pills. Like, we physically can't function because pain can just take over our whole body and our mind. And if you have a tool like this to help, then it could be a benefit so that you can do your treatments and think clear, because like you said, once you're doing it for a few weeks, you don't have that foggy brain type feeling that you have when you first start doing it, right?
[00:18:55] Speaker D: Yeah. At the height of my treatment with Lyme, I was crawling to the bathroom, I could not walk. At the height of my treatment, I was sleeping in the bathtub, because my joints just felt like they would just.
Everything was alert and telling me, pain, pain. And when you're killing offline, it is no joke.
And I know for 100% fact what got me through those times, mentally and physically, was the beautiful plant of cannabis, and using it correctly alongside a lot of other things as well. I can't give cannabis 100% of my remission and my health today, obviously, it's a lot of different things, but I really do think that it played a big role in my healing and my vitality today.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: So what are some of the things that it helped you with? So you mentioned pain, helping with the pain. And obviously, like you mentioned, when you're in that kind of killing things off, that can get pretty painful.
What are some of the things that you said? That it really helped me in my journey with this.
[00:20:22] Speaker D: So I think I touched on this a little bit in the beginning. I did not grow up in a natural family or holistic family. And so for me, I really had to shift my mindset to a different lifestyle. And so when I started treatment, which was so many different herbs, all the killing herbs you could think of, and I was doing cannabis, I was also doing sauna, infrared sauna, to help me detox, because with my mtHfR, I was not doing well with the herxes, coffee enemas. I feel like was a game changer when I started to learn those and feel comfortable doing those.
And also, too, is just like surrounding yourself with a few people or a community of people who really love and understand you, because this disease can really make you feel crazy.
Especially when a lot of doctors, you go to the ER back ten years ago, and you tell someone you have Lyme and they think you're crazy, or they had never even heard of it, and they roll their eyes at you, or it's just, I think community is really important, or having a few people around you that love you and believe what you're saying that helped me so much. My partner, the one who we just got married, they were there for me every step of the way. And that also proved to me why I wanted to take the next step into marriage. Because through sickness and in health, right, like, my partner saw me through some really intense time, saw me crawl to the bathroom, held my hand in the bathtub, held my hair as I threw up.
[00:22:10] Speaker C: Well, he's definitely a keeper, for sure.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:22:13] Speaker C: Because you can't even get some of your family or your good friends to even believe that first if you're not diagnosed yet, that something is even wrong with you, because one day you could be perfectly fine, but then the next day, you can't walk because you're in so much pain. So I understand. We really do kind of sound like hypochondriacs or something when nobody knows what's wrong with us. But even after people get these diagnosis, they just aren't believed by people. And it just crushes me to think that.
I can tell you right now there's a lot of reasons why I'm still here today, but I guarantee you that if my family didn't believe me, I wouldn't be here.
I could not do it. I would not go on.
I just can't even fathom that. And so many people are. They think they're going through it alone. They're not, because the Lyme community is truly amazing. You can reach out to a stranger in our community and we will bend over backwards to help, but it's. Whether you have that support or not, it's a very lonely disease, for sure.
[00:23:27] Speaker D: Yeah, it can feel that way. And just to correct you, Tanya, my partner, is a she.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: Oh, I apologize. Well, I love her.
[00:23:40] Speaker D: You know, what you guys are doing for the community, and this access of information is so vital because we are all so different. We all heal differently, and there's not one route to healing with Lyme, and that's something I've learned over the years, is each person has all their different healing modalities and techniques. Like, I have a friend who did the bead venom therapy, people that antibiotics have worked or whatever.
It's mind blowing how we're all so different and how we're all healing so differently. And it's truly, like, what resonates with you and what's going to resonate with your body and your systems in your body, and so interesting.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: It really is.
A lot of people reach out to us about the show and just say they love it for that reason, because you've got real people on here sharing their journeys and people talking about ways that they never knew. You could actually get rid of Lyme by doing a, b, and c. And so we love people sharing all the different ways that they did things to get better. So what were some of the other things that you did?
[00:24:53] Speaker D: So this was my first go. What we're speaking on is my first go, my first diagnosis, and then my first remission. That was with changing my diet, doing the cannabis, changing my lifestyle, doing all the herbs, everything, tinctures, all the holistic things. I still stayed holistic in my second go, but unfortunately, I did have a relapse. And that was when I was 28, I think, or, no, I'm sorry. That was when, maybe 29 or 30, I went to the dentist to get a tooth extraction. I was working in cannabis at the time, and I was on the road. I was heading to a grow site, and I all of a sudden had really intense pain in my mouth. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to go pull over, have this looked at.
I walk in, the dentist does the x ray, does his thing, and he's like, your tooth has to come out or you're going to be in the ER this week. And it's so infected. And he really set fear in all over me from someone who had struggled with their health in the past with Lyme disease. Hearing that, I'm going to be so sick this weekend, and I may have to go to the hospital. I trusted him. I trusted everything he said. I was like, okay, if you feel that that's what's going to happen to me, I'm going to trust your recommendation. And he was like, all right, I want your tooth to get extracted today. All right? So he numbs me up.
He goes in to extract the tooth. It takes a procedure that normally takes 20 to 30 minutes. Took an hour and a half. Supposedly, the tooth was breaking. He had to go. He went too deep into my molar, and he actually broke my jaw right here. And he also. From the twerking and doing the work, I had a crack in my joint. So that jawbreak incident from the extraction really ignited a flare up. And all of a sudden, I was testing positive again for Lyme. So that was my first awakening of like, oh, man. So I'm not just done with Lyme forever. It can get triggered by traumatic events. They blew my mind, and I had to go through treatment all again.
And it felt just like, man, it felt like I had to just walk across the world. I couldn't believe that I had to do this.
And my partner, now, we ended up finding an integrative doctor in Irvine. Her name is Dr. Raleigh, and she is an osteo doctor. I think that's how you say osteopathic.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Osteopath. Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:49] Speaker D: And she's Lyme literate, and she has her own practice. It's called restoration health care. And she ran a bunch of tests on me, and at the time, I don't know if she's still offering this anymore, but at the time, I did about. It was probably maybe a four to six month protocol. It was called PK protocol, and I'm pretty sure that stands for Patricia Kane.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Protocol, phosphateidal choline and all the different oils for cell membrane integrity.
[00:28:22] Speaker D: Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Right before this, I jumped on with you guys. I tried to research what was in it, and I was like, oh, my gosh, I can't pronounce half of these things.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Sodium butyrate, my slice, pure pc, all these different things. And you high dose it to really kind of work on the cell walls and membranes. And then it's fantastic for infections and fantastic for cancer. Fantastic for a lot of things.
[00:28:52] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:28:53] Speaker C: So I see you learn something new every day. I've never heard of this. And then you said oils, so we're not talking essential oils or, like, a lot of the oils that people do.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah. So on the cell wall, membranes have a lot of, like, the phosphatidyl choline is a common oil, so to say, that's part of the cell wall membrane, and that can get very inflamed and irritated, and that can then trigger a lot of symptoms and also how toxins are able to exit the cells, nutrients able to enter, which will then impact the mitochondrial function and also genetic expression.
And it's the same also on the mitochondrial membrane. Have these oils there as.
Yeah, Patricia Kane has done a lot in that area, so she has her, and we do ivs and things with that as well. In addition to oral.
I've had the benefit of chatting with her husband quite extensively.
Yeah. So it's a great program, and then you've eaten a very specific way. So they have a menu plan how to really boost your cell wall membrane, the health of your cell wall membranes.
[00:30:08] Speaker D: Right.
[00:30:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:09] Speaker D: I mean, there was about a year and almost a half stretch that I didn't have any sugar or gluten. My diet was as clean as it's ever been. And that was when I was going through that protocol.
I did it through the iv and so the effects were really intense. I'm not going to lie, they really were.
But alongside doing the PK protocol, I would go in once a week, get high dose vitamin C as well.
With the PK protocol, they actually do the glutathione push and b twelve, which is supposed to help with the detoxification and things like that. But, man, it hit me like a ton of bricks again, and I was so sick and hurt. Sing and crawl into the bathroom, and I would call my room the cave because I'd have to close all my windows because lights were just too much for my eyes.
Yeah, that was my second go at it. So I did the PK, cleaned up my diet alongside cannabis as well.
And then I got into remission again about a year and a half after that, and I'm currently still testing negative.
Yeah, thank God.
[00:31:32] Speaker C: And I liked that you mentioned the first time when it kind of really came out in you was when you had a partner in Hawaii that you had a bad breakup with. Because I think that stress and physical or emotional trauma, I think it's huge when we're trying to stay healthy. Like, I think somebody that's been bit for years and it lays dormant in them, and then all of a sudden they get sick. I'm like, something happened in your life, right? And then now it came back because you had that physical trauma in your mouth with your jaw. Yeah. So I'm glad you touched on that because I think it's really important for people to know that we can stay well forever once we get in remission. But there's just things you've got to keep in check.
[00:32:25] Speaker D: Absolutely.
[00:32:26] Speaker C: And if you know that something is going on in your life, then work on some other things and boost your body up and do what you need to do, because it can always be there for sure.
[00:32:37] Speaker D: And you know what? Even after going through all of that, even today, my life is different in the ways of that. Yeah, I'm 37, but every single day, I am conscious of what I put in my mouth, I'm conscious of the air I'm breathing, I'm conscious of the type of water I'm drinking. It's like my mindset has completely shifted, because if we don't have our health, we have absolutely nothing. Health is so that's how I live my life now. And I live in Sunitas, California. We're really, really blessed here with sunshine. So I can go out on the beach and ground in the sand and walk and get some vitamin D and immerse myself in nature, which, you know, as a limey and as someone who does have Lyme or did have Lyme, I think a lot of us are really scared to go back into nature, to get back out hiking, to go play in the streams, because we realize, as people who have had Lyme, that sometimes the scary things aren't necessarily the big grizzly bears or the sharks that might eat you when you're swimming in the water. Sometimes it's the things you can't even see, these little black things that bite on you, the ticks.
And that in itself can really mess with your head and put fear in you. And so I think it's important to immerse yourself back in nature. It was for me. It's really helped my mental health and my overall health in general. And so that's kind of how I try to live my life now, is I'm very health conscious.
I think about everything I do now. Nothing's just fly by. Oh, yeah, sure, I'll do that. Or, yeah, if I go on a trip now, let's say I'm just going on a weekend getaway. A normal 37 year old might not have to bring all these supplements and all their special stuff, but I have my little medicine bag, and I have my backups if something happens. And so lime can absolutely change your life in multiple ways, in the way that you view it, in the way that you process it, and in the way that you live every single day. And that's kind of been my takeaway.
It absolutely sucked going through all of that. But in a way, I grew up really quick, and I hope that it's prepared me for a healthy life ahead and future and more health conscious.
[00:35:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I say it all the time. If you go through and you beat Lyme, we truly are the toughest of the tough. I don't care how big your muscles are, we can get through anything. I just really believe that because it's such a horrible, brutal, life changing. Like, I can think of so many words to describe lime, but when we go through it, it's not always a bad thing. It's not always a curse.
Our lives could be definitely, they are different afterwards, but it doesn't mean it's a bad difference, or it could be a good different. I know I've talked to a lot of people who say they wouldn't be the amazing human that they are today had it not been for going through Lyme disease. So it's not always a curse.
[00:36:01] Speaker D: Absolutely not. I don't think that when you're going through it, you think it is. But then on the other side, which you will get to the other side, you do start to see the light and start to see maybe the lessons in it that you were meant to learn here on this earth.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: And it's so important then after going through what you've gone through, then to really appreciate that moment. You appreciate, like you're saying, you're out there on the beach, you're grounding, you appreciate the sun, you kind of appreciate. And being present when you know that this is a gift. All of this was not in your life before, and now I have it. It was given back to me, and it becomes such a joy. And then also appreciating then all the different tools that you have, like your diet, like herbs, like cannabis that we have around us, and it's available, and knowing that you can reach out to them and have them in your life.
[00:37:07] Speaker D: Totally. You said it perfectly. Yeah, I agree with you. It's a blessing.
[00:37:13] Speaker B: I'm curious, just. And I'm sure listeners are interested. So what does your little kind of medicine chest look like, your daily medicine chest look like?
[00:37:22] Speaker D: Oh, that's a good question.
Super lysine. I always take that to keep ebv at bay or any viruses that are going. I'm always taking vitamin D, taking my vitamin C, all the usuals. And I love colloidal silver. I say it a little different than you, Tanya.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: You did? Yeah. I don't know who says it right or wrong.
[00:37:45] Speaker D: I don't know if I'm saying it wrong for all these years. Do you know the correct way to say it, Dr. K?
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Well, it's colloidal. Colloidal, yeah. So it's not colloidial.
[00:37:56] Speaker D: Okay.
I know.
[00:37:59] Speaker C: I'm like, what did you call?
So you learned something new today, Alicia? Yeah.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: You're just adding an extra I. So it may be the.
[00:38:09] Speaker C: Adding a whole nother syllable.
[00:38:13] Speaker D: Colloidal.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:14] Speaker C: Okay. So that's one of your favorite things. Yeah, I love that because that's one of my favorite things for sure.
[00:38:20] Speaker D: Oil of oregano. I absolutely love. If I start to feel anything, come on. I do. A few oil of oregano capsules, always have something, cannabis on me.
High dose CBD capsules are really great because CBD will give you pain relief without the high, but it's a little tricky. So a lot of people will go to these random shops and see these CBD tinctures and think that it's. It. It's the real CBD. It may be CBD, but CBD can only activate if it has small traces of THC. And the only way you can get that is in a legal state or in a marijuana dispensary. So if you're living in a non medical state and you bought CBD from somewhere, it does not have THC in it. Therefore it's not going to do the job that it really needs to do. It's kind of just like you're taking an oil that may be doing a little bit, but not enough. So high dose CBD, like, let's say a 20 to one capsule, I always have on me. Let me think, what else?
[00:39:33] Speaker B: When you say 20 to one, what does that mean?
[00:39:36] Speaker D: So 20 to one is the ratios. So it's basically high concentrate of CBD with a low concentrate of THC.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: Because you have states where THC is not really legal, but it is okay if it is 0.3% or less, right?
[00:39:56] Speaker D: Correct. Yes. So the CBD plant will pop up a little bit of THC. So if it's 0.3 or less, then it's legally allowed. But that's still not enough to get that full spectrum effect that you would want from like a 20 to one or an eight to one or a four to one.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: And then you have the CBD, you have the CBG, you have the CBA. So you have a lot of the different cannabinoids.
Do they do different things? Do they all need to be in a mixture, or is it okay doing one versus another?
What are the differences?
[00:40:39] Speaker D: They all do different things for something like lime. For myself, a full spectrum would be all the cannabinoids. So, for instance, when I was talking about the RSO, RSO is the entire cannabis plant taken out of the ground and then mixed up and put into a kind of tar like paste. So all the cannabinoids are in that. Now, if you're walking around a store or you're at a health food store and you see something that says CBD, that CBD has been extracted in a lab, so you're not going to get the full spectrum effect. There are not other cannabinoids in that other than CBD. And so making sure that you have a full spectrum with someone who has Lyme is going to be your best bet.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: And are there different delivery mechanisms? You talked about dermal patches, but also you have things like liposomal, you have mycelized.
Does any of that change delivery and availability?
[00:41:53] Speaker D: It does, yeah. So the most potent way to get a fast reaction is going to be smoking it, because when we're ingesting, or if it's transdermal, it's going to take a little bit to process through our liver and to process through our body for us to feel the effects. So, like, let's say you have a seizure or a shaking episode. If you want to relieve that quickly, your best bet is going to be either a sublingual, let it sit in your mouth and go into your system, or smoking it. Those are going to be the fastest delivery systems. The transdermals, those are really used for kind of like an all day slow delivery and kind of keeping things at bay. There are a few brands that have the transdermal patches, and I think of it as more of like a slower type delivery system.
Rather than sublingually or smoking. Smoking is going to be your fastest, and letting it sit in your mouth and melt will be the second fastest.
[00:43:00] Speaker C: Well, let me just say now I understand why she went to college for this.
There's so much more to this than I ever dreamed.
Yeah, but great.
[00:43:16] Speaker D: You know, I learned it from a, there's some really awesome people on the forefront of cannabis medicine that are doing really fantastic things, especially in the Middle east, and we can learn a lot from it. And I've seen success stories myself in the career that I do now with doing, consulting. It's really beautiful to see what this plant does for people individually. Each person's different, but the relief really is number one. That's the one thing I hear all the time, is just how much it has helped the symptoms.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: Endocannabinoid. You have receptor sites all over the place in your immune system, in your brain, your nerves, your hormonal system. So these little chemicals that you get from that plant will impact not just pain, it will impact all of these different things. And you also start to detoxify parasites and mold, and all these different things can happen along with it. So it's really powerful medicine. But like you mentioned, it is good to educate yourself ahead of time, know your source, and also be guided by somebody that knows what they're doing.
[00:44:37] Speaker D: Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: Great.
[00:44:40] Speaker C: Well, wow. This has been very interesting, very knowledgeable. I learned a lot tonight. I appreciate that.
And I do. I just appreciate everybody sharing their story with us and talking about all these individualized things that they do that work for them because it's such a complex disease and then everything else that goes along with it. And not one thing works for everyone. We all know this by now, but one thing will work for a few people. So just people sharing different things that work is what it's all about. So we appreciate your time, and I appreciate you helping the Lyme community out there with doing what you're doing and this college thing that you went for. And my mind is still blown, but I love it. I absolutely love it. So we truly appreciate you joining us and sharing with us.
[00:45:31] Speaker D: Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. Just one more thing I just wanted to touch on really quickly is something during my second flare up that I realized is I started to become aware of my past traumas, and so I started to do trauma therapy, and I really feel I did hypnotherapy and trauma therapy, Emdr. And I really feel that that was kind of an added bonus to my healing.
When I visualize healing, I never visualize it in a straight up line. It's kind of like this. We're all kind of just up and down, but still moving up. And I feel like the trauma therapy really helped, even with Lyme symptoms. So what that showed or taught me is that maybe a lot of trauma from early childhood or teenage years can really play a part in Lyme. And I can't touch on it too much because I'm not a professional in that field, but for me, personally going and experiencing those types of therapies, I noticed a shift in my health and obviously my mental health. And so there's something to be said about that. I think it's pretty interesting.
[00:46:53] Speaker C: No, you absolutely saved the best for last right there, because such a huge thing, I think, in our healing journey, and not everybody realizes that. And I think that that's why some people can't get well and or can't stay well, but, yeah, no, amazing point to bring up.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: Yeah, because the question is always, you have two individuals, both bitten by tick. One gets horribly sick and the other one does not. So why is that? And maybe they even have the same genetics. They both have the MTHFR, they both have comp gene dysfunction, they have different genetic snps. So trauma and the emotional well being, I think it really kind of sets a stage so that the Lyme or whatever infectious agents can manifest, because you have then certain belief systems about yourself in the trauma. And so that is a certain energy that you then cannot attract and physical components that will then resonate with that trauma energy.
And so if you, by healing that trauma, you allow yourself then to express life more, enjoy life more, and know that you deserve to be happy, you deserve to live a good life. And when you're in that space, and I think that the infections that doesn't correlate with that new belief system, they have a harder time to exist in that environment.
[00:48:33] Speaker D: That's a cool way to look at it. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, it's fascinating to me how our mental state and the way we process trauma can play a part in whatever disease or sickness arises. It's really fascinating.
[00:48:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it. The human body is such a complex piece of machinery and who we are as individuals and what we can do and how we can heal and all of that. It's so incredible. So, Alicia, this has been incredible. Thank you so much. It's been wonderful.
[00:49:08] Speaker D: Thank you so much, you guys. It's been so fun chatting with you.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: And I hear a new song coming out here in Nashville about Lymen conquering.
[00:49:21] Speaker C: Don't forget the little people over here.
[00:49:23] Speaker D: Alicia, I'm pretty sure Brad Paisley has a song called ticks.
[00:49:28] Speaker C: Yeah, he does. Yes.
[00:49:32] Speaker D: He beat me to it.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: It's been great. Thank you so much.
[00:49:39] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you.
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