Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative lyme Solutions with Dr. Karl Feldt.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: I am so excited about the show.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: That we have ahead of us.
[00:00:08] Speaker C: We have some phenomenal information that could save lives.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: You're gonna need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is jam packed, so don't step away.
Hello. Thank you so much for joining Integrative lyme Solutions with Dr. Karl Feld. I'm. I am your host, Dr. Michael Karlfeld. I've been in clinical practice since 1987. I've seen pretty much everything under the sun, worked with so many different Lyme patients, and I know what a devastating disease this is. That's why I'm doing this podcast to make sure that you are armed with the information that you need in order to be able to be successful in your struggle with Lyme.
We'll be featuring authors, doctors, professors, and also people like yourself that have gone through the journey that you're going through, that have been where you've been and is now on the other side. And they get to tell their victorious story as to how they battle Lyme so that you can implement that in your life as well.
Be sure to like us and write a review on whichever platform that you're listening on. What that does is it enables other people to see us more so that they have access to this information as well. So I'm so excited that you're tuning in and get ready for this upcoming show. It is going to be amazing. Well, I am so blessed to have Amy share with me. Thank you so much for spending some time with me today.
[00:01:46] Speaker D: Of course, I'm happy to do it. Excited to be here.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Well, you've had quite a journey. I mean, you're a best selling author, you have huge amount of, you're marketer, you, I mean, you've done a lot, but you've had some very difficult journeys, you know, leading up to where you're at right now.
Do you mind kind of sharing a little bit about, you know, where it started from? Understand Kind of in your early 20s.
[00:02:11] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. So in my early 20s, I started having weird symptoms as many people with Lyme disease kind of start on that journey with just some weird symptoms. And, you know, know, I went to the doctor and they said, oh, it's probably your hormones or it's probably this or it's probably that. And fast forward to years and years of medical testing and diagnoses and treatment and eventually by 2000, this. I started having these symptoms in early 2000, and by 2007. I was finally diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease with hygienics testing and the right doctor and, you know that the. The aligning of all the stars and the planets, that's how it work. Right.
And so I thought, great, now that I have a diagnosis, I'll be able to be cured.
And of course, that wasn't the story, as is not most people's stories. And I went through years of treatment.
I did everything. I did antibiotics, I did supplements. I did. I mean, I did hyperbaric oxygen therapy. That was at the time. It's funny how. Or interesting how things have progressed, because the sort of trendy or hip or cool or progressive or modern things now are, like, so, so much further ahead than when I was doing things. And I don't know if people still use hyperbaric oxygen, but that was like the it thing in those days, right? Like, if you could find a clinic. There were no. There were like, two clinics in California. So I did all of the things and, you know, it just. It just wasn't working. Like, I wanted it to work.
You know, I had reactions to all the medications. The supplements were making me nauseous. I was allergic to everything. It's sort of the. The t. Typical story that I. That, you know, everyone listening to this podcast now knows the typical story, because I'm sure, you know, all of your guests have some version of the same story, right?
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they're all kind of living. Living that. I mean, it's. It's fascinating. Even though the symptoms are different and they're slightly the same, you know, whether it's neurological, whether it's body pain, digestive, emotional. I mean, it. It's. And it depends, obviously, the kind of. The combination of pathogens that they're dealing with. So I'm curious, though, what were your symptoms?
[00:04:32] Speaker D: So I had primarily neurological symptoms. I was one of those people who wasn't exhausted, who wasn't. Like, I was stuck in bed. Primarily. I had. I had severe neuropathy, and I had brain lesions. And so I had more of the neurological manifestations, not the mental neurological manifestations, but trouble walking, a lot of trouble with strength. Like, I couldn't lift my arm up to wash my own hair.
Tripping and just pain, pain, pain, pain. That was my symptom. Like, that was. I was on narcotic medication day and night that barely touched it.
And I had nerve damage on my test. It was mostly neurological in that way for me, where I had friends or people I met in treatment that had lyme and they didn't have any pain, but they were so exhausted they couldn't walk themselves to the bathroom. I could walk myself to the bathroom fine, if I could walk. So it was, it's so interesting, right, the manifestations that people have.
And then I had all the autoimmune conditions. I mean, I just had the whole sort of gamut of things.
I did have bartonella and Babesia along with Lyme.
And so there was that combination.
It had gone undiagnosed so long. So so much of the damage was quote, unquote permanent, which it wasn't permanent, but it was told to me at the time that it was permanent.
And so I was just, I spent my 20s searching for a cure, and that was my life.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: And I mean, in your 20s, I mean, you're supposed to build your life at that time instead of to try to figure out how should I be able to walk to the bathroom without being in extreme pain.
[00:06:07] Speaker D: Right.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: It's such, I mean, that's not the focus you want to have.
[00:06:12] Speaker D: No. And all my friends were going out. They were, you know, they were in relationships, they were getting their first jobs out of college and then their next jobs and then they're, you know, and, and, and, and I was really stuck in bed, you know, in my parents house. Like I had to move back home, you know, and then it's, I think it's tough at any age. And when I, when I finally came through it in my, you know, very early 30s, very late late 20s, I was like overwhelmed with the idea. Like I was so elated that I was better. But then I was so overwhelmed with the idea of trying to catch up, which at some point I just decided I wasn't going to catch up. I was just on my own. I was going to be in my own lane and however long it took me. But eventually I ended up going to India for an experimental stem cell transplant that I heard about from somebody that I met.
This was in, this was maybe about a year or two into this, probably a year into pretty severe treatments from Lyme. And my doctor was just like, nothing's working. So I took this leap of faith. I went to India for this experimental stem cell transplant that they don't do anymore. It was just like a window of time where, where this clinic did, did this work and the laws changed in India and now you can't do what you used to do, similar to, you know, in the United States. And there's lots everywhere for certain types of stem cells.
But anyway, I went to India for almost nine weeks with my parents in tow. My doctor who was incredible, my Lyme doctor basically said, block this will either.
Hopefully this cures you and you know, hopefully it doesn't kill you. Like, we don't know anything about it.
Although I did my research, I talked to other patients, but in terms of the medical data, we don't know anything about it. It's being done in another country. We know it's not tested, you know, and I went and I had a near miraculous recovery. By the time I left, almost nine weeks later, I was off my pain medication, I was walking on my own. I was not in a wheelchair for any period of time.
I was truly like a different person.
And I was at the clinic with other people, some who did well, some who didn't.
And I came home and I thought, this is so great. I'm cured. I'm going to go back to my life. I'm just going to pick up where I left off when I did that. And within about a year, I started to slide back again.
And that was when I sort of had an epiphany.
Wait a second. It's not just I've had this experimental cutting edge medical treatment and it's not sticking. There's something I need to just stop for a minute, stop chasing a cure and figure out what I might be missing.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's a challenge. I mean, so you did all these treatments, the antibiotics, the hyperbaric, and I'm not sure all the other fancy things that existed. But you're absolutely right. I mean, how things have evolved in these kind of cutting edge integrative therapies, it is just tremendous. And I see that in my line of work, you know, what I do now versus what I did 20 years ago.
[00:09:24] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: Is incredible how that changed. And so.
But still, everything that you did, you know, it's still going to start killing some of these pathogens, but you still have a body that needs to be repaired from all the damage. And so then stem cells help to them do that repair. But then there may be underlying factors that are still not addressed that I know that you really had to dig deep into. So I would love to hear that.
[00:09:59] Speaker D: Yes. So that's what I did. So at that point I had, what do you do when you've traveled across the world for a cure? And that wasn't the cure like. And I had also, just to be clear, in the United States, been to multiple clinics. I had been to, I've been to, I mean, multiple hospitals. I'd been. I mean, I, I had traveled all over the US Before I went to India. And so there was something, there was something inside me that just said, you have to stop. You have to stop. One of the reasons and a big blessing, which did not feel like a blessing at a time, was I was out of money, had fundraised to go to India, and I was out of the money to continue the search for a cure in the way that I had been doing.
When I was out of money, the only thing I could do was sit with myself and try to figure out how I could save myself. And it was the last thing I ever wanted to do, the last thing I ever thought I was capable of doing, the last thing I ever thought would actually work. But it was the only thing left to try because I had tried everything else.
And so when I sat and really felt like, okay, the common denominator here is me.
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[00:13:08] Speaker D: The common denominator here is me. The only thing that still stands true amongst all the treatments, amongst all the infections, amongst all the diagnoses is me.
Like, that's the core. And up until that point, I had been quite defensive if anybody suggested that part of this could be emotional or mental or. Or, you know, anything like that. Now, remember my doctor once asking me, is everything at home okay? Like, is everything in your relationship okay at home? And I said, of course, yes, it's fine. It's fine. It totally was not fine. But I was defensive. And, you know, I would get really defensive where I. When I would hear doctors talking about, you know, and were mainstream doctors, to be fair, that, you know, there's a mental aspect to this, that when.
That when. When patients have a chronic illness, there may be some. Some sort of mental or mindset or emotional thing. I was so defensive that I couldn't even see that maybe an inkling of that could be true. But at this point, when I was broke and I was sick, I had all these symptoms back. Not to the point I hadn't, like, you know, derailed enough to, like, be back to, like, in a wheelchair, but I was definitely struggling again. And I was like, you know what? I'm sick of not blaming myself. This fight to avoid blaming myself. What if I'm. What if I missed? Like, what if I could help myself? And so I just decided to stop being defensive. I just decided that since the only common denominator was me, and I'm a Virgo, and I'm also a very practical person, so I was like, the only common denominator is me, and it's partially my fault. What if I don't care if it's my fault? What if I literally just don't care? What if my doctor is right, has something to do with my relationship? What if some of the experts, I think are jerks, which probably are right, are dismissive? What if I don't have to take it all in as my responsibility, but I just decide it's okay if part of it is that was this flip the switch that flipped everything for me. Because when I was able to get out of that defensive mode, which I think took me out of fight, flight or freeze to, like, defend myself, I was able to say, you know what? I am in a toxic Relationship. You know what? I'm not speaking up for myself in ways that I should. You know what I am living in fear about? I'm a perfectionist. I'm a people pleaser. I'm. I'm all of these things about my personality or traumas that I've endured and just tried to. To. To push through beliefs that I have. Even at that point about could I get and stay well, would I always be behind? Like, there was so much BS as far as the narrative going on in my head, and when I stopped to think about it, I was like, that's. That must be really stressful to be me. And what happens in the face of stress? Our immune system and our nervous system do not function properly. They can't fight infections. They can't regulate my hormones. It can't do anything.
And I just decided, because I had tried everything and I was out of all the money, that I would just turn inward and I would see now what I could do with the only stone unturned, which was me.
And when I did that is when I started to get well. And it's been.
That was in 2010, maybe 2000. I mean, it's been a long time, and I have never relapsed. One of the. One of the beliefs that I had to clear, one of the narratives that I had to clear was that when I had Lyme disease, every doctor told me, you're gonna have to be careful for the rest of your life, because if you get stressed, if you get. If you travel too much, it could come back.
And this many years, it was something I really had to get out of my system, that I could be resilient through life's difficulties and still be okay. And I have been. I went through the death of my father. The, like, you know, just big things, and I've been okay because I did the inner work to not be solely relying on my immune system or nervous system to do all the work to protect me. And so that has been my very. My very surprising and unexpected journey of healing.
And. And it was the work that. It's the work that everybody least wants to do.
And I also want to say that, you know, my father was a therapist, so I had been to therapy. I just. I had decided when I had heard, oh, maybe emotions could have to do with it, maybe mindset, oh, no, I've gone to therapy. I've already done that. I've already checked it off the list. And what I realized is the inner work isn't just ticking, clearing, clearing blocks off the list or getting over trauma, it's really changing who you are inside to rebuild your foundation. Like, I had to leave a relationship.
I had to admit that the career that I was in wasn't the career that I wanted. I had to admit that I had anxiety when I was a person who went through life saying, I'm not anxious. I'm so relaxed. I've had to stop lying to myself. To actually change the things that you can't always change by ticking off that you've gone to a therapist every week for 20 years. And so that's my journey in a nutshell.
I hope that that gives a good summary.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: I mean, that's such a powerful journey. And it is interesting because a lot of patients, and it's not only Lyme, it's whatever disease it is, is that if a person would then say that maybe this is emotional, then a person, you in yourself, you say, well, look at these tests. I have borrelia. I have bartonella. You know, these are the reasons, you know, it's right here on a piece of paper. Don't tell me that's in my head.
[00:18:58] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: And, yes, there are a lot of doctors that are kind of dismissive of the Lyme, and they say, well, here's some antidepressants. It's all in your head. Because they can't really find anything in their normal testings because they don't know how to test. But that doesn't mean that, yes, you should address the Lyme aspect, the chronic infections, but not forget the inner work like you had to do and not, you know. And I love how you're saying, you know, that whether I had to just kind of let go of, you know, not caring whether it was me or not, you know, whether it was my. Yeah, no. You know, you have to kind of let go of not caring, become that observer in a way, and just become your own experiment.
[00:19:44] Speaker D: That's such a good way to say, become an observer and your own experiment. I always say I just approached it with curiosity and, like, detachment. Like, oh, my gosh, what if I'm the problem? That would actually be kind of cool, because then maybe I could actually do something. Whereas for years and years, I was in this situation where I was waiting for the supplements to work, I was waiting for the IV treatments to work. I was waiting. And I do think those things at a level worked, right? I do. Even though I didn't get and stay well from them, they definitely did something. However, I wasn't doing the thing that. That my body needed to help those things work. And so I think that's where the disconnect was that yes, these things were real. My, my, my MRIs, my, my, you know, SPECT scans showed that I had lesions in my brain. Those were as real as anything else. Right. These, these tests show that we have, you know, the bacteria, that we have the virus that we have, the. Whatever. My nerve conduction, I mean, I had a muscle biopsy, done it at, you know, in L. A at a hospital that showed nerve damage to my, to, to my muscles. I had all the real things. But the real things can also come by, by, by emotional contributors because the emotional stuff is who we are, the spiritual stuff is who we are, the essence of who we are. And that has the power. It is so powerful that it can work to break down the body or it can work to fortify the body.
And so it was just. And I think that's why it worked for me. I had done all the medical treatments. I don't think there was anything left to do, although I do always say so. One of the things I never did was chelation. I had off the charts mercury levels. And so that was one of the theories of why I had the nerve damage. Right. And the nerve pain was. And totally made sense.
But at that point, when I was told that I had to do IV chelation and how much it was going to cost for me at that point because I was out of funds, I. I just said I'm going to have to forget that I heard that. I somehow just have to forget that I heard that because it's not something I can. That's accessible to me. And it will drive me crazy to think that I need to do this thing or I can't get better. I need to do. There's always the next thing or you can't get better. And so I decided that I just wasn't going to do chelation because it wasn't accessible to me. And, and it's been so interesting because I never did the detox for mercury and, and I'm perfectly fine and I have been for years because I think that my body mean, who knows, maybe if I did a mercury test, I would, you know, wouldn't be good. But I don't have any symptoms. I don't have any symptoms of it. It wasn't something that I needed to address the way that I thought I needed to address it. So I sometimes think that sort of fortifying your whole body in the way of, of spiritual and emotional healing can help your body function. In a way that maybe. And it can be its own treatment in some way. Of course, this isn't to dismiss medical treatments. We need doctors, we need support, we need medical.
But we can't always rely on those things. We can't always. And our doctors, our doctors shouldn't have to rely on only medical treatments. Our doctors would cheer if we wanted to do the work that would help support the work, the good work that they're doing. And so I just see it as an all, all and everything. Try it, try it all with that moderation of not feeling like each and everything is the key to your healing. Right. It all just works together.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And I love how you're saying you're always looking outward, you know, finding something out there. And by doing that, you're losing the strongest healer that exists, you know, of all healers, and that's, you know, within.
So you're losing that inner power that you need in order to be able to kind of move. Because your physical body, essentially, it becomes what your thoughts, what your emotions, what your, your traumas and all these different things.
It modulates itself to fit that energy.
And I've seen many times that, let's say you start to chelate heavy metals, and then you have emotions coming along with it.
So there is emotional connection to these pathogens or these chemicals. So you can then work on it physically, but if you don't address it, then emotionally, essentially you have the same type of environment and terrain that will then draw these heavy metals and chemicals or pathogens in again to kind of keep that hold, that energy that resonates with that trauma, with those emotions and what you feel about yourself, your fears, it just, it's almost like they're helping you to hold those emotions. But if you let go of those emotions, there's no need for them.
[00:24:35] Speaker D: Yes, yes. That's so, so important that, you know, I've seen thousands and thousands of clients over the years since I've been doing this work full time, 2012.
And it's so interesting to me because the way I see it is that the emotions, the stuck emotions in the body, certain emotions resonate at the same energetic frequency as certain pathogens. And I have one of my techniques called thymus test and tap, which I teach my clients how to use to actually work on this energy, which is when people come to me with mold, they almost always have the energy of depression, guilt, grief. Those are the emotions I see that match the energy of, of mold and those mycotoxins. And so what I, what I do is help people to find the emotions that are almost working as a magnet. They stick to each other energetically. And when you can clear some of those emotions, the frequency doesn't match as well. And that, along with the wonderful treatments that you do at your center or that you're, you know, that anybody's doctor is doing with them, can really help to kind of unravel that tightly wound connection between emotions.
And I do that with my clients, with anything. I just see, I've seen these patterns. It's so interesting. We're all different.
But I'm sure, as you've seen, there are certain personality traits, there's certain patterns, there's certain belief systems, there's certain traumas that get sort of. That sort of resonate at the same frequency as different conditions. Right. Or diagnoses. And it's been fascinating for me to see those patterns over the years.
It's, of course, more fascinating for me now because I'm. Well, I'm sure everybody listening is going, yeah, real fascinating. You know, it's not as fascinating when you're in the journey because you don't feel good and you want to take the pill and feel better. And I was absolutely one of those things.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: People.
[00:26:24] Speaker D: I mean, I always remember being like, you know, you'd always hear someone like, at a treatment center being like, oh, my gosh, I got it. You know, I got a few vitamin B12 shots, and it fixed all my nerve pain. And I'm like, why can't I be one of those people? I mean, I was one of those people that would, like, have an allergic reaction to the vitamin B. They're like, have a. Well, have a wealth that got infected from that. You know, just. I was one of those people where everything went wrong.
But I also think. I also think that was connected to being deep inside a family, fearful person, afraid of people being upset with me, afraid of other people being in pain. And me, I mean, I'm such a sensitive, empathic person. I was always like that as a child. I always saw everybody else's pain. The homeless person on the street, the kid who, you know, looked like they were sad. And so I think all of that fear and all of that lack of safety within me made me a perfect match for Lyme disease, which is. Or, you know, or all these other conditions.
And I was the perfect match to one. Have those conditions to show me and teach me through them that I could be a different person with some work inside. I just had to do it. I just had to do it well.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: And the thing is that we, I mean, spirochetes and viruses and heavy metals and chemicals, it's all around us. Parasites, mold. Yes, we expose that, that all the time. Yeah. So essentially, if we then have that vibration that resonate, that emotional, the energetic vibration that resonate with that frequency, then you are then going to attract it and you're going to hold on to those pathogens because you have that emotional or spiritual makeup, so to say, you know, so the fear that you're holding is going to resonate with maybe this heavy metal or this chemical or that pathogen. And so by still not resolving that fear, you're then going to want to bring in whatever it is that resonates with that, you know. So, yes, I'm really curious because, you know, your father's a psychologist and you did all the, the counseling and all these different things and so, and it's so hard for people to really recognize what, what is inner work? You know, what, what does that look like? How do I proceed and how do I know if I'm clearing it, if I need it, if I, I mean, obviously in my mind, everybody needs it.
[00:28:53] Speaker D: Yeah, we can all use it. I still do my own work to this day, you know.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So, so what, what does that look like? What does that journey look like for a person that is down and out? They're in bed, they can't, you know, to.
Yeah, to shower. I mean, that's a kind of twice a week experience.
That's all they can handle.
[00:29:15] Speaker D: Yes. This is such a good question. Thank you for asking it because I think that people. It's hard to know the difference. Right. So the way that I saw therapy, and I'm a big fan of therapy for becoming more aware of what's going on and how to deal with it. But the fault that I sometimes see that people rely on therapy to clear emotional baggage. And I think it's very good to have somebody to talk to. It's very good to become aware of your patterns. But our patterns usually don't change by talking about them because so many of our patterns and fears are at a subconscious level. And so talking about them doesn't always clear them from the body, get them out, give you a way to change things. I also think therapy is a supportive environment which many people need and it's really great. But I think my doctor had one question about how are things going at home? And his bluntness in asking was more powerful than any therapy session because most therapists, from my own experience are there to support you and to Sort of facilitate your own unfolding, your own awareness. However, sometimes I think we need tougher love. Sometimes I think we need to set to say to somebody. You know, sometimes people write me and say I'm in a toxic relationship, what energy should I clear? And I write back and say nothing. Get out of the toxic, toxic relationship if you can. You can clear energy like around feeling unworthy or the belief that you can't survive without this other person. But you have to do the thing. You have to do the thing. And most people who come to my work have done, have been to therapy for 20, 30, 40. I mean I have people in their 80s who have been going to therapy and, and, and they, they haven't ever done anything differently.
They've gone there. And you know, we get used to talking about spirituality, talking about our problems. We enjoy the process of looking at patterns, but we don't do things about them. And I think that the work that I practice called energy psychology gives us the tools to change the brain, to change the beliefs, to change the patterns at a deep level. So you're reprogramming yourself and alongside it you are making decisions to change things that aren't working. You can be the most spiritual person all day long, but if you don't take the action that's required, you don't only live in a spiritual world, you live in a physical reality. If you don't decide that you know what, nothing's going to change unless I save myself. This, this toxic relationship isn't going to get better. I have to get out. Nobody is going to save you. And I know that there are barriers, there's socio economic barriers, there's all kinds of things we have and to honor those, right, it's not easy. I get it. However, the promise to ourselves must be that to the best of our ability, we take the actions to change our lives in the way you can. Maybe you don't have the money for 100% organic food, but you go as far as you can. You stop eating the, you start to stop eating the ice cream for now, you know, and that's not, you don't have to go gung ho is to eat ice cream, you know, whatever. But the idea is to, to, to, to use the power that you have to the very top of your limit and just do it. Stop making excuses. Yes, it's hard. Yes, it sucks. Yes, you don't know how you're going to do it. Yes, yes, yes, all of those things are true. But if you just sit there and talk about week and say, you're checking it off the list, you aren't doing what you need to do. And I think that's where I was was it was easy to say I was doing the work, but I was still lingering in a relationship that was just not good for me. There wasn't going to be enough energy work I could do to fix myself to make this person not a jerk. It just wasn't going to happen. Right. And it was a well meaning relationship, you know, the person met well, but, but all of the things didn't matter because at the end of the day, that was effective. Me, at the end of the day, I had to not only decide that maybe I had been an anxious, sensitive person all my life, I had to start reprogramming my beliefs that I was unsafe, that if other people got upset with me, the world was going to end. I had to actually use techniques to change the way that I lived.
And I had to take the actions to do that.
And that's the difference between going to therapy or, you know, whatever and deciding that outside of that you can still go to therapy, but outside of therapy you have to change things. Talking, if talking worked, I would be so happy if talking alone worked. But it doesn't work for everybody, for everything. And you have to go beyond talking to the harder stuff and the deeper stuff.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: And sometimes when you just kind of sit and talk about it, it's almost like you're reinforcing the pattern is that you're, you're kind of digging that pathway even deeper because you're reinforcing your inability to move through whatever that is.
And it is interesting. We look at individuals and you have this philosophy called Feng shui, where you look at a home and you can kind of see what's going on within the individual by seeing if there's disarray and if things are going on in this corner, then that probably will impact the individual in such and such way. And you can then see that also kind of in their life, in their relationships. And so by not in feng shui, by not then moving that piece of furniture or doing that practical component, you are not then going to change that energy. And it's the same with an individual. If you're not taking that, that step, you know, ending that relationship, shifting that job. And obviously, yes, there's only so much you can do. I mean, said, if you can't afford organic all the time, then do as much as you can. But that shows that you are stepping into power versus being a victim.
[00:35:16] Speaker D: Yes. And that energy of power is, is the energy that matches healing. So I mean one of the top tips I give to people which is so hard is stop obsessing over your symptoms. Just stop obsessing. Just decide that maybe you're going to feel like crap for right now but you're just going to leave it. That's just what it is right now. Stop tracking your systems symptoms, stop thinking I feel 5% worse than I did five minutes ago. What happened? What can I do? Just let, almost like let the illness process do its thing. All you can do is do what you can do over here. You can go see, you know your doctor, you can take the supplements, you can do the work and just let the thing do the thing it's going to do. Because as long as you are doing things to move forward and you can tr, you can trust that something is happening the more you focus on the thing. And trust me, I can give, I can 100% guarantee to every person listening after 10 years of chronic illness, if you take your attention off the thing, it's not going to get worse, it's not going to get worse. Nothing's going to happen while you're not watching. You are just going to be in a better mindset. Your nervous system is going to be in a better place, your immune system is going to be in a better place. If you can't do anything right this second to change it, try to change your energy about it. Try to be more light hearted about it, try to be less obsessive over it. That alone, just deciding that it is what it is for this moment, until it gets better is will. I can just feel the energy now will provide so much relief for your poor struggling body right now. Like if that's all you can do. And then as far as the emotional and the spiritual stuff, I always say start with telling yourself the truth. You don't have to act on it, but stop lying to yourself about your relationship. Stop lying to yourself that you're fine, that you don't have fears, that you're not anxious. I mean if you just start by stop stopping, that can create just enough space for things to start to move. And then you can decide what steps to take. And then you can read my books if you want and then you can, you know, but that gives you a little space to just say if I stop fighting what is and I stop lying about what is, how much more energy does that give me for my healing? It's so much. It's so much and it's free it's free.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's the thing. Is that exactly what you're saying? By doing those things, you free up energy and that energy you can use for other things. You know, it's like spending money. You know, if you stop spending money on things that are unnecessary, then you can use that money for things that are important. And so.
[00:37:57] Speaker D: Exactly.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:59] Speaker D: And if you. I'm sorry, I just want to say, and if you, if you, if you work on the emotional piece, all the money you're spending on the treatments will be. Will you will go further.
You know, doctors, My, my number one referral source is doctors. That's where most of my clients come from. And it was not like this years ago. It was not like this. But it took a bunch of patients, you know, going to the doctor and their doctor said, wow, how. How are you doing? Better? And they said, you know, I've been doing the emotional work. Well, what did you do? And then. And now doctors, you know, doctors have gotten so on board. Like, I teach at New York Presbyterian Hospital. That's mind blowing to me that they hire me to teach doctors, psychiatrists and nurses. This would have never happened when I was sick. But, but, but what I see is that when people start to do emotional work, guess what? Their liver supplements start working. Guess what, the chelation starts working. Guess what? The chiropractic adjustments start holding. And it has nothing to do with me. They could, people could do anything they want. This is not a plug for my work. It's just to show that when you start doing your piece, the treatments start working, your money goes further, your doctors smile more. Everybody, everybo feels that progress. When you start lifting the weight that only you can do, nobody can do it for you.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: Yeah, because. Because no doctor wants to be throwing a bunch of treatment on a patient not responding. Yeah. That's the last thing that we want to see. And so to kind of bring this piece to me and just like you, I feel the, the emotional work that is the foundation, the spiritual emotional work is the foundation. And then you build these other therapies on top of that. So if you just do the therapies without the piece that you're talking about, then just like in your case, it's only going to go so far and sometimes nowhere at all.
[00:39:55] Speaker D: Yeah. Or not last.
That was even more devastating for me than when I wasn't getting well, that I did get well and that it didn't last.
Like, that is the ultimate low. That was my ultimate low point. But that low point led me to you know, where I am today.
[00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and that's sometimes the best therapy, you know, manifests itself when your back is against the wall and you have no other option, like you're sitting there. All I have is myself. I don't have money to do any, any of these other things. Yeah. All I can do is just, just look at myself and it's the only thing. So how people out there, you know, what would be.
Because it's always that. What is the first step? You know, how can I start to build that momentum, you know, to, to unravel these things and clear and, and kind of clean up my, my emotional well being, you know, what, what, what does that first step look like other than just kind of acknowledging, yes, I need to do something. Yeah.
[00:40:58] Speaker D: Yeah. So I would say learning one or two tools. I teach many tools in my books, but even learning one or two to start clearing, I have them for free on YouTube. My books are in libraries. But, but for instance, one of, one of the easiest techniques that I created during my on. Most of my techniques were created during my own healing journey because I was frustrated with how complicated these techniques were out there, with the exception of Emotional Freedom Technique eft, which I absolutely love, although I had to put my own spin on it to use it to find that I would use it regularly.
But the sweep technique. So one of my techniques called the sweep technique, like sweeping with a broom, it's a subconscious clearing script. All you do is read it and there's two fill in the blanks with space to release a specific belief and, and, and, and you know, install a new belief or reprogram a new belief. Starting with beliefs is a really good way to start because most of the narration in your head is what you believe. So if you can stop and listen to what you're telling yourself, I'll never get better. Nothing's working.
I need to be afraid of X, Y and Z. If you can start with a thought, and if you ask yourself, Is that thought 100% true? And you say, and you say, no, it's not. I, I can't validate with sign science and it's 100 true, that means it's a belief. And you can clear those beliefs using this subconscious sweep script that I created. And all you do is read it and the wording is very, very specific to tap into the subconscious mind and gently start to reprogram those beliefs. And when you start feeling or embracing new beliefs, like, maybe I can get better, you know, maybe I can feel safe in the world. Just some of the core things. If you start undoing some of the core things that you're telling yourself that are stressing your body and not working toward your healing, that is the first easy step. Again, it's on YouTube. You can just repeat after me on YouTube. You can grab one of my books. The script is in there and it's super easy. You don't even have to raise, you know, tap. You don't have to tap. You just have to repeat.
And in my books, I have all kinds of ideas on, on what the most common beliefs are. So you don't even have to think of them yourself.
You know, I have a lot of stuff on YouTube, so if you don't know what to do, just start with anything. I think overthinking it is actually a big problem. I remember before I started doing the emotional work, I was like obsessively, I was like, I was, I was using that pattern of obsessing over, obsessing over symptoms to now obsessively learn every single technique instead of really using it. So I would just say I'm giving advice to start with the sweep technique and, and start to just reprogram some of those things. You don't have to learn it because you follow along with me or read it, you don't have to memorize it, you don't have to tap, you don't have to do anything. And just starting to change that inner narrative can really make a difference. Can really make a difference.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: And that's the thing also, I mean, we're dealing with these health issues and we think that because it is so overwhelming, the solutions got to be so complex.
[00:44:10] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: And, and then we look for something very advanced, very complex versus and doing the foundational, simple things that are really moving the needle so 100%.
How, which, which. Because you written, you know, a number of best selling books. Yeah.
[00:44:29] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:44:30] Speaker B: Which one would you recommend? You know, if you're going to start with a book, start with this one.
[00:44:35] Speaker D: Yeah. So the one that I keep with me next to me all the time, that one that is so tattered because my wife and I use it, is how to Heal Yourself when no one else. It was my first book and it has everything and you don't have to do everything, but it will start to give you the ideas and the practices that you can follow along with. And the, the, the lists of beliefs are in there. It will start to give you everything you need. This is like a book, it includes my own journey, but it's like everything I learned That I wish I knew. Right. That I had to figure out the hard way. And so I think, also to your point about simplicity, I tell my students and clients, don't do more than 20 minutes a day.
You don't need it. And I'm sure you see this too, Doctor, but by the time somebody has come to you and they've been. They've been, you know, struggling for so long, they actually lose some of the basics. Like, I'll meet people who, like, maybe would have tried simple things in the beginning of their journey, but then thought they didn't work, or maybe they didn't work, and now it's 10 years later and they're like, never going outside for sunlight. They're never walking around the block and they're drinking Diet Coke. Like, no judgment, but going back to some of the things, like just a few minutes of fresh air a day, just no matter how slow you go, try to walk around the block or do laps in your yard if you have to, you know, hydrate, take electrolytes, don't drink aspartame, like these just such basic things. So when you're doing the emotional work and you're doing the great work that you do at the center, and sometimes you've been on a journey, you. You forgot the foundational things, which is to be in nature, to stay hydrated, to get some sunlight. Those things can make a huge, huge difference.
Those things can make a huge difference. And even if they didn't work alone in the beginning, I would encourage people to bring some of those in. And the idea of the energy work is the same. Do the foundational things to help your body, your heart, and your mind relax.
Do them. I love to. You know, there's, there's, there's. I love just 20 minutes of energy work. And I say if you can't do 20, do five. Like, it doesn't matter. But keep it basic because the overwhelm of healing can actually be really counterintuitive. So do what you can when you can, but commit to really doing it. Commit to that. You're not just going to go, I did my energy work today, but you're going to, you're going to address the deeper things that, you know, you've been ignoring. And I think 20 minutes a day, even a few times a week, it makes a difference. Difference. And don't drink Diet Coke while you do it.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's the thing, is that people, they feel.
They see all these things that they should do, and then it becomes so much.
And then they feel because they're not doing it all, they're not doing what they need in order to be able to heal. And then they don't feel like they're going to heal instead of celebrating the few things that they're able to do. And by doing that, really knowing that those few things you're doing is moving the needle towards you, you know, towards healing versus thinking that, you know, I'm missing out on what I need and ignoring all the powerful things that you're already doing.
[00:47:43] Speaker D: Yes. And your symptoms, your acute symptoms in the moment are not a barometer for if anything's working, see that over and over. Someone will do one session of energy work and say, my pain hasn't shifted, it's not working.
And it's like at this point, when something's anchored into your body, it's not going to work that fast. I mean, it might. I've had many one session miracles. I have not been one of them. I'm not, I don't have that in me to do, I guess.
But, but, but again, it goes back to stop obsessing over the symptoms, let them do what they're going to do and do your good work here and just keep doing it and just keep trusting that all things are working in your favor, that all things are being rearranged in your body at a cellular level, at an energetic level to work. I always tell this story. I had the very, very, very worst month of symptoms before the month that everything went away.
If I would have judged how I was doing based on my symptoms, I would have quit.
But thank God, something inside of me probably told me I shouldn't listen to myself and not to believe everything I think.
But your corner that you're about to turn could be tomorrow, it could be next week, it could be 3pm today.
And what your symptoms are doing now has no bearing on what's going on at a deeper level for your healing. So I would just say as much as you can, try not to pay attention to them and do the good work you're doing and just keep going.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: Some of the symptoms, I mean, we have these, I mean, we're wired for survival. And so we are essentially creating fears in order to protect us from things that we think is gonna injure us or hurt us or cause us to die or whatever that may be.
So as we are then unraveling these compensation patterns. So to say your body's gonna have a defense mechanism, that little child screaming, saying, don't take that away, that is what's, what's saving me, that's what's making me still survive. And so those can be the symptoms that you're feeling. And in reality it is just that most powerful next block or interference pattern that you're moving through. And then at the edge, you know, at the end of that, you are not holding that pattern anymore and not needing to have that little child screaming anymore more.
[00:50:12] Speaker D: Yes, I love that. I love that. And anytime we are stressed, physical symptoms get worse.
Anybody who's listening right now will be able to relate. Have you ever gotten really nervous or upset and the first thing that happens and you have to run to the bathroom? That is the perfect example of how your emotions exacerbate physical symptoms. And so when you are stressed, when you are in fear, when you are in survival mode, in that way you, your, your pain will be worse, your digestive symptoms will be worse. And so as you're moving out of that, leave room for the idea that those things are just lingering from those old patterns. Right. And that there are a whole other set of survival skills, which is hope, which is belief, which is, which is optimism. And to try to shift as much to those as you can.
[00:51:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it. Well, Amy, this been such a powerful conversation and you're doing such amazing, powerful work and thank you so much for, for bringing this to the world. And, and, and it is funny when you started saying that you, you know, trying to catch up with your peers in your 20 and, and I would say that you've, you've, you've kind of by being in your own lane, you're, you're, you know, you're far, far beyond a lot of people.
[00:51:30] Speaker D: Thank you, thank you, thank you. And I think I'm exactly where I, I'm supposed to be. So, so. And that's how it works, right? Thank you for having me. This was one of my all time. I have done hundreds and hundreds of podcasts. This is one of my all time favorite hours I've ever spent with anybody. So truly, thank you for having me. And I'm going to have to come visit you at some point in your center and see what's going on there.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: I would love that. And this. Oh, thank you. That, that, that's, you know, what a compliment. Thank you so much. And where can people find you? Where, where should they go?
[00:51:59] Speaker D: Yeah, so they can go to my website, which is, is Amy A M Y B which is my middle initial and my last name. Cher S C-H-E-R.com and you can find everything and anything from there. And again, my books are in libraries for people who don't don't have access to to bookstores or to buying books. And I'm on YouTube too with lots of free sessions.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: Oh thank you, thank you. Well, thank you so much. I have a beautiful rest of the day. I thoroughly enjoyed this and thank you for what you're doing.
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[00:53:43] Speaker D: Sam.
