Episode Transcript
[00:00:06] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative lyme Solutions with Dr. Karl Feld. I am so excited about the show that we have ahead of us. We have some phenomenal information that could save lives.
You're gonna need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is jam packed, so don't step away.
Well, I'm thrilled to bits to have Ali White with me today on Integrative Lyme Solution.
Ali, thank you so much for spending some time with me.
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Well, you're so welcome. I am honored to be here. It's a pleasure to finally meet you. And I just want to say thank you for having me, and also congratulations on all of your endeavors that you've been doing for the wellness community.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: Well, thank you so much. Thank you. And you're running an amazing podcast, but now you get to be in the hot seat to talk a little bit about your journey.
So I'm really curious because obviously you don't start just having a lime podcast for fun.
It becomes a passion and a mission, and. And usually that's driven by something. So do you mind just sharing your journey a little bit for our listeners so they can kind of see not just what you experience, but also so they can learn from it as to what good, bad, indifferent, and what worked and didn't work?
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Absolutely. So before I get started, I just want to sort of give the audience a little overview of Lyme disease. Of course, everybody's heard of Lyme disease, but did you know that there are 475,000 new cases of Lyme per year in the United States alone?
That is well surpassing the breast cancer cases per year annually.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: You might have heard about it, Dr. Berscano. When I spoke at Ilads, he was saying around 600,000.
So it actually the numbers increasing.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: That's right. This is the number that I'm telling you that the CDC reports. But as you know, many, many cases can come on annually, but the person may spend years trying to diagnose it. So this is just a rough estimate, but certainly, certainly it's on the rise.
Of course, everybody's talking about Justin Timberlake having Lyme disease, and he's been in the news that ER visits nationally for tick bites are increasing, with 2025 showing the highest level since 2019 nationwide, particularly in the Northeast and the Midwest, according to the cdc. So this spike is attributed to a lot of different variables.
The record high tick populations, longer tick seasons due to climate change, increased public awareness leading to more early visits. So in other words, people are recognizing earlier, hey, this is Weird. This feels neurological. This could be Lyme disease. I just pulled a tick off me. So they're going to the error and human expansion into areas where ticks are prevalent. You know, cities are going out, they're expanding and they're going into the more urban areas and there's more wildlife out there. And also some ticks are more aggressive than other ticks and some symptoms are more aggressive than other symptoms. So you know, it's on the rise obviously every single year.
Most people never recall being bitten.
Less than one third ever show the tell tale bullseye rash.
So that's not a lot of people.
As many as 34% continue to experience symptoms even after treatment if they're lucky enough to get treatment early on.
And different tick species carry different diseases with or without Lyme, and they each have different yet similar treatments.
And, and most people don't even realize that ticks transmit more viruses and diseases than any other animal in the world.
So, you know, to know them is to really know them. I guess you could say we've all been, you know, affected by tick borne illness in one way or another.
A lot of people don't realize that even though somebody may test positive for Lyme disease, they may. Most people carry 2 to 3 to 4 co infections that the tick was also carrying. And those CO infections can oftentimes be more serious, so to speak, than Lyme disease. They may be more detrimental to your body than actual Lyme disease, Borrelia.
So there's a lot of layers to Lyme disease and I just wanted to sort of give you an overview of those layers and we can go into the CO infections and things like that later. But basically with my story is I have a very typical Lyme disease story. I do not remember being bit.
I did run carefree when I was a child. Perhaps I picked up my first round of Lyme disease then and then, you know, cut to along the way I had some, I had shingles when I was a teenager. I of course had Epstein Barr and mono and all of that. But I was living my life in a very, you know, productive way. I was active at the pta, at the school and I did all the things with the kids and I just also even had my own PR company and I was really just had a great life and definitely visited Maine for two summers in a row. And I think that might be where I picked up a possible second tick bite. Maybe it was the first one, but in any case it rocked my world.
And I went for six years undiagnosed or misdiagnosed.
And living in Los Angeles, it's kind of hard to get a Lyme disease diagnosis because, you know, back on the east coast, if you go in and say, I'm really feeling dizzy and neurological and sick, and yes, I. I was out, you know, in nature not too long ago, or my dogs were, they'll go ahead and just give you the antibiotics over the counter. And then, I mean, not over the counter, but they'll give them to you and not even bother with testing. They're like, oh, you have Lyme disease here.
Which has happened to several of my friends, but that doesn't happen in Los Angeles. You go from specialist to specialist to specialist. And that went. That. That went six years before I finally got a diagnosis.
And when I finally got the diagnosis was, you know, I was already six years into it, so a lot of the acute symptoms and. And things had.
Had morphed into more of a chronic condition, but I was still not out of the woods. It took me another six years to get out completely.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: And so the acute symptoms, I mean, can you kind of describe a little bit what all of that looked like? And when you go to specialist, to specialists, what kind of diseases were. What kind of labels did you throw at you?
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah, sure.
The acute state my symptoms were. I felt like I had the flu 24 7.
It would not go away.
I had trouble walking on my feet to the point where I thought I had cracked a bone in my foot. So I went to the ER because I couldn't walk on it.
And I was supposed to be traveling two days later. And I went into the ER hoping to get some understanding of what was going on with my feet. And they said, oh, you know, your bones are fine.
And I thought, what could possibly hurt and feel like a broken foot?
I was at a loss, but I couldn't even tie my tennis shoes because even the. Even just the padding on the inside, the laces, if I laced it up, it was excruciating pain on my feet. Come to find out years later, that's a telltale sign of Bartonella. And it can be one of the symptoms of Bartonella anyway.
But mostly I felt like I had the flu. I had trouble with my joints. I had trou opening a water bottle. I had trouble operating the shower. I had trouble getting in and out of the bathtub. You know, I felt like, wow, this is really bad.
I could barely. If I could do one thing a day, that was a lot. I spent a lot of time in bed.
And for the Most part I would be laying there wondering how I was going to get up to possibly get to the shower. I mean, I would lay there for two hours trying to just figure it out.
So I was not, it was not great in the, in the beginning stages. And like I said, I never had a rash.
I never remember pulling a tick off me.
But you know, again, I could have been in a moldy environment or I could have been just experiencing some, some, something stressful. And you know, I was building a house and I was doing all of that at the time. And I think it just, my body just was, it did not give the disease a good terrain, you know, to fight it. It just might.
I always talk about the, the terrain of your immune system. My terrain system at that moment wasn't cutting it and the Lyme took over. So whether or not it was dormant or I had recently had a tick bite that I didn't know about, I don't know.
But it, it was raging and it was, it was extremely depressing and I couldn't function, I couldn't go outside to participate in my kids sports and activities and anything else. I just was, I was dumbfounded by the by, you know, I just, my whole life came to a screeching fault.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: And, and so, and this lasted for six years.
All of this.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: That lasted for six years. And so in the beginning, like I mentioned, my feet hurt. So I went to a podiatrist, didn't get any answers. Went to another podiatrist and they finally did all these MRIs and everything. They said, this is not, this is nothing to do with your feet. I don't know what's going on. And that is when I realized this is nerve related. And that was really scary for me. So I was misdiagnosed with fibromyalgia and by my neurologist, I was misdiagnosed. I don't think he knew what else to call it. He just called it a pain disorder.
And because I was in my 40s, early 40s, and because I had been an active, you know, active in exercise, active in life, I just would not take that for an answer. I just couldn't. I would not go on the medication for fibromyalgia. I would not do anything else. I said, you, you can't. Like I was in spin class three to four days a week. I, I can't just accept that I all of a sudden have fibromyalgia. And so those were some of the things that I was misdiagnosed with having and Then, and then I just remained persistent and I just kept trying and trying. Of course I was going to conventional medicine doctors in the beginning because I didn't, I didn't.
It was so acute in my system. I kept thinking, there's something really wrong. I need to get that medicine.
I need to get it labeled so that I can get the medicine so that I can feel better.
And I just didn't really realize, you know, that there is no cure for Lyme disease.
And once I was diagnosed and had that blood work, I went to another doctor and I had them start over and do the, you know, do all the. Do their version of testing for Lyme disease. And I came back with the exact same diagnosis, the exact same, you know, Borrelia and then the exact same co infections. So in my analytical little mind, I was satisfied with that diagnosis. And what I didn't realize was, you know, the hole that I was going to have to dig myself out of and, and all the new things that were going to come into my life that I never had really analyzed.
I had never, ever analyzed my lifestyle, my diet, some of the more natural things that you can do from home to help yourself and help the symptoms. And I had never really put a lot of faith into integrative medicine.
Not that I. I never had a reason to sort of think outside the box. Everything I had had up until that point was easily managed by conventional medicine.
And it wasn't until this crossroads in my life where allopathic medicine was just not working for me that I decided I would think, allow myself to think outside the box.
And that's where my whole true healing began again. I was six years into it by that. And then I did another six with my integrative medicine and. And I am fully healed.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: That's amazing. That's amazing. I'm curious. So when. What made you start to think Lyme disease? When did you start to kind of consider that as an option? I mean, because many people don't even. They are stuck with whatever label the medical doctor gives them and then they are put on antidepressants, on pain medication or whatever it is to mask the symptoms.
What made you think Lyme disease?
[00:15:28] Speaker B: I, it was sort of would come and go in the back of my mind, but when I would Google search it back in the day, I mean, this was several years ago, so I would Google search it and then all I would read about is how inaccurate the testing was.
And yeah, I had had the symptoms, but I just am a lot. I'm just one of Those people that, you know, I have to understand everything logically. And it just didn't match up with my reasoning, you know, why. So I go and get tested and then it's like 50, 50, whether or not the results are even right or not right. And this like, again, this was way before, you know, modern testing. And, and so I just sort of, well, I always dismissed it. And then I started developing some real pain in my underarms, my armpits. It was partially just the inability to detox as many Lyme patients experience.
And my doctor. And then I started having lumps kind of under the, by the lymph nodes. And that is when my doctor said, you need to go see this. I was sent to the cancer institute in Los Angeles. I was sent to the John Wayne Cancer institute in Los Angeles.
And at that time it was being run by Dr. Lawrence Pirro.
And I didn't know who I was being referred to. I just showed up one day and I could barely kind of talk. He said, just talk to me. Let's talk. What's going on with you? And I told him and he did the test. I did a whole body scan. He goes, this is nothing to do with, you know, cancer, your immune system. He was, he kept talking to me and he was very curious. Turns out he was the doctor for the Hadid family and he had helped Yolanda and her daughters navigate Lyme disease.
Again, this was many years ago. So anyway, he said, have you ever considered doing a Lyme disease test? Now this is a cancer, this is the guy who's running the cancer institute asking me if I had ever considered Lyme disease.
And I said, well, you know, I've heard about it, I certainly don't know. I had, you know, visited the northeast, you know, a couple of times, not sure. He goes, dude, let's just, if you're willing to spend the money, let's do the test. I said, sure. By that point I had nothing to lose. So I did. I plopped down the $2,500 and you know, lo and behold, it came back positive with the co infection.
And then I went and found my own regular doctor since I didn't need to be in the cancer institute anymore. When found my own doctor who knew a little bit about tick borne illness, but not everything.
That's another story in Los Angeles.
Not many are, you know, ll MDs here.
And so I went there, described my symptoms. They did a whole other $2,500 test and we did all the things and it came back exactly the same so it really wasn't that it occurred to me it was more that a doctor suggested. Finally a doctor suggested. And he was great because he was thinking outside the box.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: It's not cool. I mean, you go into a doctor with that stat, you know, that stature and focusing, I mean, he's a well renowned cancer doctor. And then him pointing you towards Lyme disease, I mean, when.
I mean that, that's amazing. Which labs did you. Were they two different types of labs that confirmed each other or running the same type of lab that then just kind of reiterated the results?
[00:19:36] Speaker B: I know we did a basic lab, the basic labs at the time, but we also did Igenics labs. And that was the first I had ever heard of Igenics labs. And it's a very highly specific lab report. And like I said, I did get the same results with both and, and so yeah, that's, that's what I did. He also did something with urine.
I know. And in my first testing with Dr. Pirro, he even had me get a deep tissue massage before I did the testing.
And I don't know what that was for, but he just said sometimes that if it is Lyme, you know, it, it reads differently. That's his philosophy. I don't know. But he, he will never say he's a lying literate doctor. He just knew enough to get me tested and because every other blood test I was getting was 100% perfect.
So I knew it was something that was hiding.
And man, did I see that co infection lit up like, you know, a Christmas tree. So, so that was my answer. And then truly, that's when I started doing integrative medicine because I realized conventional wasn't going to cut it. The only conventional medicine I did was I did three months of antibiotics.
Unfortunately, I was sicker than a dog the whole entire time, the whole three months. And I just couldn't.
I had a terrible cold, I was coughing, I couldn't get better. It was like I could just feel my immune system even going further down into the dirt.
So I stopped that after three months, but I gave it the old heave ho.
And the only other prescription I did was gabapentin. I needed that for burning nerve pain at night.
I didn't even want to try that because it's an anti seizure, as you know. But at the same time, I was so desperate and I was, I was just, I was, I was literally had no other answers. So I did that. And I have to say I did that off and on for about, you know, three years.
Because my symptoms would get so bad at times that I just had to put myself on that. I only took it at night and it would get me over the hump. I'd take it for about two months and then I'd wean off of that. You know, when my symptoms were gone, I didn't stop it immediately, I just weaned off of that. But that was obviously just a band aid. But it was helpful in my case, maybe not everybody's case, but it did help me with that burning nerve pain.
And, you know, so those were, those were the prescriptions that I took. And then after that I was in integrative medicine and I was doing treatments and I was getting IV treatments and I was getting, you know, I was trying all the things. At first I couldn't do infrared sauna.
But then as I got better and better, I revisited and I found out I could tolerate it. So one thing I always tell people, just because the treatment doesn't work initially doesn't mean you can't go back to it. Because your system just has to work this thing out on its own time. And your job is just to know what's working, what's not working, what feels good, what doesn't. You have to be intuitive in this process and you have to learn to know your body so well.
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And so you found then this integrative doctor, functional doctor that was Lyme literate.
So what did, what did that. You said bunch of IVs, you know, the sauna, you know, do you mind just kind of sharing a little bit the protocol? And also, were there things that really, you felt really move the needle for you? Obviously with the understanding that it is different for everybody. You know, what, what moves the needle for one may not. May be the worst thing for another. Yeah. So. And, but for you, what seemed to really kind of move the needle and impact you the most?
[00:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So keeping in mind I was already six years in, so my body was sort of in a. In that secondary stage.
I wasn't out of the woods. I wasn't acute anymore, but I was, I was not living my best life. I was at probably 65%.
So I would say infrared sauna helped immensely in the acute. I will say this. In the acute stage, you should never do sauna, hot tub, yoga, anything like that. You just should not overstimulate your nerves. That's one thing I would say to everyone.
But because I was well beyond that, I could tolerate things like infrared auna. I did IVs, I was very depleted, so I did IVs every week.
And that was just called an immunity IV. They even called it an athletic IV because I was just pumping myself full of vitamins and minerals. And then I always had a glutathione push at the end.
And I did that every week for about a month.
And then I went to every two weeks and then eventually went to once a month. And then now, now that I'm out of the woods, I would probably go back just as a preventative, maybe once before cold and flu season, maybe once a year, maybe twice a year if I wanted it. But that really helped me in the beginning. I also decided to tackle.
I had, I had a chronic EBV reactivation And in order to diagnose this, you have to go through a couple of layers of testing. So they don't just stop with saying you have active Epstein Barr. They will then do a secondary test to see if you have the right thing going on in your body at that moment that it's. It's causing it to reactivate. And I wish I knew what test that was, but that. But my integrative doctor just kept digging and she said, you know, she's only had one other patient in her office that actually had this happening where it was, it was just. It just kept reactivating. So I decided that that was a little bit bigger on my plate than possibly Lyme disease. Kind of like you have to treat mold illness first before you treat Lyme disease. This is along the same line. So I did SOT treatment for, for Epstein Barr virus, and that helped me a lot, just having the Epstein Barr put at bay for a while.
And I only have great things to say about SOT treatment. And you know, how I know it's working is because I've been through now the Palisades fires. I've lived in a hotel. I've now relocated.
I had a kidney stone. I had all sorts of trauma happen this year, and I only had the SOT treatment last year. And nothing has tripped me up. In other words, things that would have normally caused a huge flare just don't cause that for me anymore. I used to go to the dentist and if I had any dental work, man, I would be. I'd be in bed after that. It was like. It was just my body just could not handle much.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: And.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: And so SOT has been great for me.
I didn't really throw too much at myself at one time. I believe in baby steps and in one treatment at a time. So you have to be careful trying to just do all this, do all the things at once. I didn't do that because I really wanted to give each thing. It's a fair shake at just trying to weed itself out.
What else have I done? I have done.
Oh, Nad. Nad IVs were very helpful to me as well. I. I really love nad. I think I'll probably do them once a year from now on just as maintenance.
But it changed me. I had, I had. It gave me energy, it gave me. It took. Oh, it took away my burning nerve pain like you wouldn't believe.
So that was probably my main symptom toward the middle to end of my journey was I would get in bed and it would just hurt to lay in one position at, you know, for longer than 10 seconds, it was like really hard for me to sleep. The sheets even hurt, hurt. You know, it was just, I was very sensitive. So that nad man talk about taking away burning nerve pain, it was really good. And again, this is just for me. This is my genetics, my bacterial load from that tick and all the co infections working together and against me and everything else. So but this would probably be my main things. And then of course I have to say that I did many things at home to support myself at home. I had the supplements that I was lacking in my blood work. So I only believe in doing supplements that you actually need.
And I get those done once a year. The supplement, the blood test and then I will supplement. And every year it changes just a little bit. I can get rid of something and then I might have to add something else.
I do a foam roller every single night to release my fascia. I believe that that's extremely important to people with Lyme disease. My fascia was constricting under my skin and I always felt like I was very, just constricting my, I felt like my, my overall, my body was just start very restricting.
I did breath work, of course.
I do the rebounder to get my lymph nodes beginning every morning and get that drainage happening. I found out that I was having a hard time releasing toxins and getting my lymph system draining every day. So I do a rebounder for like 10 minutes a day.
And you know, nutritional changes, of course I, for the most part, I went grain free for quite a while.
I went off eggs for a while and then now I can tolerate them. A lot of things that I couldn't tolerate then, I can tolerate now in moderation. I certainly went off alcohol. I certainly went off beer and wine for sure. And then if I did have a drink rarely, I would just have something that burns a little cleaner, like a little vodka with a little bit of, you know, mineral water. And that was just fine for me.
But for the most part I really, I didn't even have the taste for alcohol.
And.
And then I went on a higher animal protein diet only because my body wouldn't react to animal proteins.
I don't know why, but it was like I was reacting to everything else. But I could eat a piece of grilled chicken or a piece of grilled beef, fish, all of that, but, you know, I couldn't have much of anything else.
Even vegetables were hard for me in the beginning. But eventually, you know, now I eat a normal, like a Normal person does. But I definitely keep things in check. I keep things in the back of my mind. I monitor, you know, my health in ways that I never have. And I, I give huge, you know, blessings to, to my journey because I do believe that, you know, I, I'm not the person that I ever was before this, but I like this new me, and I think it's going to be around a little bit longer than the old me was.
And I just have to say, you know, in closing, that my, My ability to open my mind and change my mindset and do some programs like Primal Trust or the Annie Hopper programs, really retraining my brain, retraining the way I see things, see the world, retraining the way I see illness and wellness and, and that's hard work. It's not something that you just, oh, I'm gonna meditate for one second right now. You know, it's, it's actually training your thought process because once you go through something like Lyme disease, I was. My body was getting healthier and healthier, but it wasn't quite over the, you know, in the finish line. And so what I decided was maybe my mind and my body were stuck a little bit in Fight or Flight, you know, oh, my gosh, I don't want to go outside. I might get it. You know, there might be a tick out there. There might be this.
I don't want to travel because the last time I traveled, it was, you know, whatever it is. I mean, I was locked into Fight or Flight. I was locked into just this rigid way of being because I was, because I lived for so many years being triggered left and right, and I really have found a lot of closure once I went deep emotionally and started unlocking some, some, some things that I had been holding on to.
And I changed my mindset. And if I, if I ever woke up and going about my day and really down and just hopeless and feeling terrible, I would take a five minute. I have on my, on my Instagram, actually, I think it is. I have my five minute mindset change.
And if it's five steps and you do each one for a minute, and if you learn how to master that, then you can do it. If you need to do it five times a day, then so be it. But you have to get out of your illness. You have to start seeing yourself as a well person. You have to talk to yourself as you are a well person. You have to occasionally do things that well people would do. You know, you have to force yourself out there and you have to, you really have to make it happen for yourself. And a lot of people weren't raised that way. They were raised with generational trauma. How their parents saw illness, how things were always this way, are never going to get better or, you know, all of that negativity, it really, really will not help you.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing. When you deal with an infection or you deal with a disease and you're stuck in that pattern, there's brain changes or neurological changes that takes place. And yes, maybe you get rid of the infection and yes, maybe you change it to rain.
But if the brain pattern, the neurological signaling is still there and signal as if you are dealing with the disease still, you're not going to be able, like you say, kind of get over the finish line. You're then going to communicate to your immune system to communicate your cytokines and how you detoxify and how you nourish the cells. All of that is going to be communicated in a way as if you are a sick person.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: That's, that's absolutely 100% correct.
And don't forget that there are many, many expensive treatments out there. I named a few that are relatively, you know, expensive in the beginning if you, if you have to do this, but they're not forever. And not only that, if you invest in certain treatments with an integrative medicine doctor, then you're better sooner. So you're not going, you're not going to be going, keep going down the road, you know. But I just want to reiterate that people don't necessarily have to invest $100,000 in treating Lyme disease. You can get herbal protocols out there, you can have at home treatments. You know, I decided to go ahead and invest in a very small one person infrared sauna because I was paying for each session out there and I paid itself off the first 15 times that I used it and the whole family uses it now. It's wonderful.
You can, you can just do a lot from the comfort of your own home. And on my website I have many things, many books that you can read, many articles, many resource guides, and you know, there's lots and lots of different wonderful therapies. Even, even, you know, frequency therapies, whether it's light frequency, magnet therapy, sound, you know, frequency, vibration free frequency. There are, you know, there are many, many things that you can do from your home now. So I just, I just want to reiterate that, that you can still treat Lyme disease if you don't have much.
And I Even have a podcast on the Lyme Time podcast that we go into how to actually go into getting yourself help financially.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: And that's exactly. People don't recognize that. Yes, there's so much you can do that doesn't cost that much. I mean, just starting with some herbals can be really, really powerful. Obviously it is good then to know what co infections you're dealing with and what to match, you know, what herbals to match, you know, those co infections with.
So there's a lot of, you know, great homeopathics.
And then, I mean, that is phenomenal for, you know, people that want to hit it harder, whether they're doing ozone or things like photodynamic that we do, or, you know, cell membrane repair, you know, with IVs or chelation, or, you know, just nutritional. There's so many different tools out there that you can bring in.
And if you feel that you really need to hit it harder, that. And that's phenomenal that there's financial aid. So how can people look into that? I mean, where, where should they go? Do you have that resource on your website?
[00:40:51] Speaker B: I have a lot of resources on my website, yes. It's. It's an interview I do specifically with a company called the Ticked off foundation, and you can hear more about that. But you can go on my website. I have resources for children, for the military, for, you know, all kinds of people that are trying to deal with Lyme for parents, you know, going through this if you're not, if you've never had Lyme disease, you don't exactly know what your kid is trying to tell you and how to navigate, help navigate them through, through all of that. And also some, some great.
You know, recent treatments involving children are very, very minimally. You know, you can do them from home. You can do a lot of brain, brain therapy and different things like that from home. You just get the, you get the little device and then you start working on it every day. But I also want to remind everybody that, you know, if you're ever bit by a tick and it's attached, don't panic.
Just go ahead and remove it carefully and don't try to put essential oils on it or anything else. You just have get some tweezers and grab it at the base right, right next to your skin, as close as you can and pull straight up, straight up. Don't let go of those tweezers and eventually the tick will release and put it in a Ziploc baggie and send it off to hygienics or another tick testing lab. Because if you can test that tick, you will know exactly what it was carrying. You may not even get things that it was carrying, but you will forever know what that tick was carrying.
And you'll save a lot of money to test the tick. It's a hundred dollars to do. The tests that I went through was start, you know, $2,000 with that test. There's I. Since that, since I was diagnosed. There are other labs now, like Vibrant Labs can test for the top, you know, four main ones. They, they do others as well. But, you know, there's a lot more testing options available now for sure.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: And Mike, don't forget to test for mycotoxins too.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Yes, yes, mycotoxin mold is a big, big factor. And you know, like Dr. Neil Nathan, you know, mold and Bartonella, you know, make sure you, you address that from his, his mindset. And then, and obviously, you know, different doctors have different ways to go about things. And so how, what inspired you then to start a podcast and what is, I mean, obviously your own journey and your challenges. But you know, what kind of made you think that I gotta do this?
[00:43:45] Speaker B: I was angry, to be honest. I was mad because I'm one of the lucky people that has great health insurance. I live in Los Angeles.
I could see any doctor I wanted, and I did. And for six years I went undiagnosed. I mean, it's unacceptable.
It's truly, truly unacceptable.
I was asking all the right questions. I was just bounced around from rheumatologists to neurologists to podiatry to whatever it was. And it just.
When I finally got the Lyme disease diagnosis, I decided that was a blood test.
This whole time. I ended up the lupus doctor. I ended up at the, you know, fibromyalgia doctor who's written many books of fibromyalgia and all this stuff. And nobody could give me what I needed. So, you know, what was actually going on in my body. So it was born out of frustration.
But as I started going along my journey, I, I decided to dedicate my podcast to talking to the experts and getting as much information out into the world from all the experts, whether it's conventional or integrative or holistic way to approach Lyme disease and tick borne illness so that people would have a place to go and like, say, is this happening with me? Could this be what I need to test for? And how do I test? Oh, there's an episode on testing. Oh, great. You know, I mean, what's So t treatment. I don't even know what that is. There's an episode on that from wonderful integrative medicine Dr. Casey Kelly. And, you know, what is, you know, magnet therapy? I don't know. I live. I. You know, I. I want to try something a little bit more. I want to try frequency healing. What is that? So, because it's so multifaceted, everybody heals differently, and nothing is the wrong answer.
So we go into a lot of different types of therapies and talk directly to those doctors.
So to me, it's my passion is getting the information out to everybody, so. So that nobody has to suffer much longer than they actually have to.
You know, I mean, hopefully nobody suffers at all. But the fact that I went six years is not okay.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: Oh, no, it isn't. It isn't at all.
So you mentioned a few different therapies. I mean, which therapy out there, obviously, sot impacted you a lot, you know, with the Epstein Barr, what therapy out there kind of intrigued you and did you. You didn't know about, and that surprised you that you think the audience should know about?
[00:46:43] Speaker B: I mean, really. Really? I have to go back to the nad.
I was scared to try it. It's certainly not the most pleasant thing to go through when you have the IV And I tended to get very nauseous.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: It's.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: It's. You have waves of nausea as that needle is in your arm, but as soon as they remove the needle, it's over.
And it doesn't. It's just waves. Waves, you know, so it's not a. It's not.
It's not painless.
But honestly, that moves the needle the most for me. And just keep in mind that, you know, now that I'm doing the podcast, I'm learning about ozone. I'm learning about methylame blue. I'm learning about all these different, you know, treatments for symptoms.
Again, you're. You're not gonna just find that one pill or, you know, the one thing that changes your entire life, but it's the ability to keep trying different things, keep trying something until you find something you like. I happen to like NAD that was toward the end of my journey, and that sealed the deal. And so that's something that I really, really love.
But also, keep in mind that I did not. I. I am not the typical Lyme patient that tried a ton of treatments. I tried a handful of treatments, and that was enough to work for me. But I think it's because I was. I would. I didn't try treating until six years into it.
So. So I don't. I don't have a ton of other treatments that I would say, like, this is that. But for. For me, NAD really moved.
It gave me sleep, and it also helped me live my life during the day, and that's what I was really needing at that time.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I love nad. And we frequently also combine it with CBD just to help a little bit with some of those effects that people don't like, the nausea and feeling hot all over and all of that. But it is a phenomenal iv. Yeah. Along with so many other. Other ones as well.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: So I think CBD is great, too. I. I forgot to mention that, you know, I couldn't. It wasn't easy for me to take it orally, but I would get a high potency cbd, like, salve, and at night I would just rub it on the bottoms of my feet. It was like, kind of. It wasn't a cream, but it almost was like, you know, vaseline consistency. And I would rub it on the bottoms of my feet, rub it on my shoulders, and that was just enough to begin to relax me and help me have a good night's sleep.
I didn't realize that the body detoxes the most when it's in the deepest sleep stage.
And, you know, hearing that, it's no wonder I didn't detox properly. I was. I was not able to sleep very well.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. When you're. You're dealing with pain, you know, then you're put in a place in that sympathetic state where you're not detoxifying. So inflammation is opposite of a detoxification process.
And. And the issue is that when you're not detoxifying, your inflammation increases and your pain increases, you know, because you're more inflamed and there's more toxins floating around. So it becomes this vicious cycle. So then to utilize these different tools to help to kind of break that cycle as much as possible and then also incorporate, like, the sauna, like ionic foot bath, coffee enemas and Epsom salt baths and all these different things that can be really helpful to push that needle of detoxification more is going to help then to break that vicious cycle so that you can detoxify, you can reduce inflammation, you can reduce the pain, which will help you detoxify more and so forth. So, yeah, that's.
I'm so glad that you're able to kind of move through this journey and for everything that you are doing for the community. And really, I mean, we need as many voices out there to educate the public, educate doctors and, and, you know, allow or for the growing people that are being diagnosed that they have somewhere to go. And so thank you. Thank you. And so tell me, where can people find you the name of your podcast and you know, where, where should they go?
[00:51:34] Speaker B: Okay, well, I've got lots of things, lots of ways people can find me. The first way is thetickchicks.com thetickchicks.com has lots and lots and lots of pages and ways to connect. That's where I promote my events, whenever I have my events. And I also have my shop pages for things you can do from home.
So I also have a podcast called Lime Time.
It's available on my website. It's also available on Apple, Samsung, Spotify and YouTube. So you can look up the tick chicks on YouTube and it's called the Lime Time Podcast.
And what else? We have a private support group that's peer to peer on Facebook and you can find that on my Instagram page and my Instagram page is the Tick Chicks. And I do daily posts, posts and tips and motivation and just, it's a great community that I have over there. And everything is linked in my bio on Instagram, including that private support group which people love. I, I, I. It's not really meant for giving, you know, it's, it's, it's not for giving advice. It's more like going to your, you know, weekly community event and people are talking about the same thing. And, you know, there's some tip here, a tip here that might help somebody or a tip there. And it's really just a great community builder.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: And, and I think that's the thing is that, you know, this disease is so isolating. Like you, like you mentioned, you know, sometimes you got to do what normal people do, you know, to kind of break the pattern. So to have a place to go, to have a community where you can kind of listen to each other, share your stories and get support.
Sometimes one person is down while the other person is up, and then you can support each other that way. So it's such a valuable thing to get to be part of.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: Well, Ali, that's another great way to retrain your brain is feeling like you're participating in life, you know, and just getting that endorphin rush of communicating with other people and just, and really, you know, I always joke, like, the Internet is where I found anybody else that understood what I was going through, you know, but my family didn't understand they were Supportive, but nobody really knew what I was going through until I found that community.
So it's very important.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Yeah, and that's interesting. I've had, you know, with Lyme patients, I've had to do little videos for their family to educate the family as to, you know, what it is that their family members going through, you know, that's going through Lyme.
So they can understand that sometimes they are, you know, can do this or that, and then another day they can't do anything, can't get out of bed. And it's so confusing for family members because they, you know, they. The person looks good, labs look good, and then one day he can do this or she can do this, and then another day they can't. So it. It. You know, it is very confusing for the family members. And sometimes it's just hard as you're going through your Lyme journey, and then you're tired and you're exhaust. I mean, you're in pain, and then. And you got brain fog. And then to communicate to your family members at that time can be challenging in itself. So to have a community of people that understands you is phenomenal.
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
It sort of takes a little bit of work on your part to seek things out, but as soon as you do, you'll feel right at home. I mean, you could.
You could just.
You can just watch videos on. On, you know, YouTube or Instagram, have that community, and immediately somebody knows what you're talking about.
So it's. It's really special.
[00:55:59] Speaker A: Love it. Well, Ali, thank you so much for taking this time with me, and thank you so much for what you're doing for the Lime community.
You know, they. They need you. They need this type of information, and they need tools and encouragement. And thank you so much for having a place where they can go. Thank you.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Thank you for having me. Thank you for the work that you're doing with bringing awareness to Lyme disease. And I just want to remind everybody you're not alone.
There's lots of us out there, and you can heal.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Thank you. Foreign.
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