[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative lyme Solutions with Dr. Karl Feldt.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: I am so excited about the show that we have ahead of us. We have some phenomenal information that could save lives.
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Hello. Thank you so much for joining Integrative lyme Solutions with Dr. Karlfeld. I am your host, Dr. Michael Karl Fe Belt. I've been in clinical practice since 1987. I've seen pretty much everything under the sun, worked with so many different Lyme patients, and I know what a devastating disease this is. That's why I'm doing this podcast to make sure that you are armed with the information that you need in order to be able to be successful in your struggle with Lyme. We'll be featuring authors, doctors, professors, and also people like yourself that have gone through the journey that you're going through, that have been where you've been and is now on the other side. And they get to tell their victorious story as to how they battle Lyme so that you can implement that in your life as well.
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Well, I have the absolute pleasure of having Marilyn Hammer with me today. Thank you so much for being with me.
[00:01:47] Speaker C: You bet. I'm very excited about this.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Well, you're in beautiful Montana, and I actually get to see the outside view of the river right by you. And. And so. That looks amazing.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: Thank you. Well, hopefully they don't start sawing on the wood, because it's not very far from right now. It's gone and. Beautiful.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: I know, I know. They. They start to mess with beauty a lot of times. Yeah. So.
[00:02:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Well, you've had quite a journey and you authored a book. I mean, I was really intrigued by the title, you know, over my dead Body. I mean, how.
What kind of inspired you to give that title to your book?
[00:02:33] Speaker C: Well, I used to be an extreme skier, and so, I mean, I was in crazy shape when I got bit by the tick.
And it was also my first month of pregnancy.
Um, so my daughter was born with it, but I went from jumping out of helicopters to I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs and, you know, and that, that, I mean, it's devastating for anyone. And when you're an athlete, athlete at that level, it's really devastating because it's a lifestyle of being in shape.
And so it took him six and a half years to diagnose me.
And I can't tell you how many times I heard the.
Well, at your age. And I was like, I'm, I'm like 40. What are you talking about?
You know, and so that, that was the reaction a lot. And you know, I went from doctor to doctor and nobody could give me answers. And I, and I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs. I had become so weak and I was working out and getting weaker. It just didn't make any sense at all. And I've been a health food advocate since I was in my 20s, so it wasn't really anything to do with my lifestyle. You know, I don't know if you've ever hiked in Glacier park, but the Avalanche Lake trail, which is about two and a half miles long, was my warmup.
So, yeah, I mean, like, it was crazy. So I was, I was going downhill. My daughter was strugg and we were finally diagnosed. She was five. And it took six and a half years and went through two years of treatments. And I got a blood infection through my IV port with a 3% survival rate.
So I crossed over numerous times and that actually is what led to coming up with an answer was the blood infection.
Because back then the biofilm research was really new because this was in 2008 when I almost died.
And so I'd read things about biofilm and Lyme disease and the blood infection also had a biofilm.
And so it's a miracle that I'm here in the first place. But when I was reading the research on that and the doctor was looking or talking to the pharmacist to try and figure out what to put me on, I saw that it had a biofilm and I was like, Dr. Susser, this is, I just felt it in my gut. This is it. And I researched everything they told me, you know, every time something would change or whatever. And I used an energetic device to, you know, I identify patterns.
And so I was using it back then mainly because I didn't want to put my daughter on so much medication because she was only five.
And.
But then I started, you know, putting the other people in the IV room on this device also. And I saw these patterns of the mercury levels, you know, and, and the biofilm which was by it shows up as fibrin fibrinogen on a lab test.
And so what. We. We didn't even intend on doing this, but I had gotten significantly better by getting on the right antibiotic. And then I wanted to do a cleanse to get all the medication out of me and my daughter both got really sick again. And the doctor said, your blood infection is back. And I freaked out. And so we figured out how to dissolve the biofilm with enzymes that were in the cleanse and did the protocol of antibiotics at the same time we were getting rid of the biofilm, and that was the last step of it. So for my daughter, it was about six weeks from that point. But, you know, we had done a lot of things up to that point, so that's not the only thing we had to do. And for me, it took longer because of the blood infection, because that was. That was really tough.
That's why it's called over my dead body, because I. I actually died.
So, you know, and I. And when I. When I did, my little brother was there. He died two weeks before his fourth birthday, actually, tomorrow would be his birthday.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: And he.
He was standing there, and we grew up in an abusive home. And so I felt him my whole life. I could feel him supporting me.
And I said, oh, you're here to take me into the light. And he said, no, I'm here to tell you it's not your time. You're going back. And then, you know, and then I had that falling feeling, you know, like. Like falling backwards.
And when you're out of your body, you don't feel the pain. And it was the worst pain I've ever felt. It made childbirth seem like a, you know, broken nail.
It was so excruciatingly painful. But that's the only way that I knew if the antibiotics were working is by the level of my pain. So I. I never took any pain medicine.
But when you. When your soul goes back into the body, that shuddering that you see people do when they're close to dying, that's the soul going back in the body. And then. And then you feel the pain again.
Yeah.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: And that must be. That must be. So, I mean, here you are completely pain free. You feel good and everything's at peace, and then.
Then kind of have that stark contrast of going back to that. That pain. It's almost like it's worse to be in that pain when you felt the difference.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
But it was very aggressive. It was a multithophilia bacteria, Mia stenotrophenomas, which is antibiotic resistant.
At that time, they didn't even have a testing facility in the United States.
And ironically, when I had one of the newer Lyme movies, documentaries playing last year and, and I just had it running and I was cooking dinner or something, and the very next video that came after that was one about that blood infection. And they were talking about how hard it was to kill it. And it's because of the biofilm. I've figured out that all chronic illnesses have a biofilm that holds a pathogen in.
And I've also figured out that wherever the biofilm is growing, which is different on different people, determines the symptoms.
So like when the biofilm grows on your connective tissue and it makes it stiff, and so that crushes all those little nerves that you have in your connective tissue. And it also, you know, prevents the muscles from, you know, like, like your connective tissue usually lets your muscles move back and forth like this, and it's truly connected all over your body. So when that becomes stiff, then your muscles are sticking.
Same thing kind of happens when you're dehydrated, only this is more extensive when you've got the biofilm. But that, that's what presents as fibromyalgia for Lyme patients. So when you start dissolving all of this biofilm, like I had tinnitus, that's gone away. I had migraines for about five years, that's gone away. I couldn't feel my feet up to my ankles, that's gone away. Like all of these crazy things have gone away.
So. And it was all biofilm related.
And it's also in the blood, so that the bad cholesterol has a biofilm, cancer has a biofilm.
I mean, it's crazy how many pathogens create their own biofilm to hide in.
So when people are in remission, it's really because the Lyme or the pathogens are hiding in the biofilm.
It just means that you didn't get it.
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[00:13:10] Speaker B: Tell me, and I want to go back to the biofilms, but tell me kind of fully, what were your symptoms? I mean, you said you couldn't. You had all these, you know, I couldn't get up a flight of stairs and, you know, before you jumped out of helicopters and. Yeah, did all these things. So can you give me a full picture of what your symptoms look like at. At your worst?
[00:13:33] Speaker C: Oh, gosh, there were so many, you know, the, the migraine was really intense.
The just. Just overall weakness. And I was also a single mom running my own business and traveling all over the country all the time for work. And, you know, and I had to keep pushing through all of that.
So it was a general fatigue.
There was foggy thinking at times when I started treatments, the neuropathy and all of that, I had also my arms were falling asleep all the time.
I could see the floaters in my eyes, especially when the light was coming in from the side.
The floaters were more obvious. Like it was. It was very weird.
There were so many symptoms.
You know, it's like a laundry. It's like lupus kind of, you know, where you've got all these different symptoms that nobody can explain and then, you know, you piece it together. But that's that's a lot of what I figured out was that the biofilm determines the, where the symptoms are. In a lot of cases, you know, you, you become over toxic.
One of the first things that we saw that we didn't know what it was at the time.
One of my doctors and I, he was actually my dance partner and we did all these experiments and we were doing a wet slide experiment with antioxidants.
And so we create a very stressful situation.
And we were taking garlic and gosh, this was like over 20 years ago. It was garlic and something else that we started taking to see how quickly it would bring down all of the, the stuff in your blood that shows up when you're under stress. And they put my blood up there and it was all, it looked like a choo choo train and stuck together. And so it was hypo hypercoagulated. And we, you know, he was like, what's up with your blood? I've never seen blood like this. And nobody knew what it was. And my doctor was from Hawaii, so he had no experience with Lyme.
And that's what all of my slides look like. So that was, you know, in hindsight, that was part of the Lyme and that hype. I've been doing a lot of research on that the last few months.
That actually is what presents as rheumatoid arthritis in people because it causes severe inflammation.
So that's one of the things that the enzymes also help with. Like nattokinase is really great for dissolving biofilm in the blood.
And you know, so that, that's one of the things and it takes quite a while for the blood to correct because you're, you're getting.
This sounds gross, but you have to get all the dead carcasses out. You know, you have to get the biofilm out. You got to get the dead creatures out of there. And so your body goes through this healing crisis. Even after the pathogens are dead, you still have to clean everything out. So when I'm working with people, we actually do cleanse all the way through the whole process. We start with a cleanse and get rid of the toxins and all of the crud that's in their body in the beginning, which helps minimize the Herxheimer's reaction when you're killing the pathogens.
And then we keep it going during that because if you don't have your elimination pathways open, you're not getting rid of all this stuff and you become severely toxic. And that's what Herxheimer's reactions is.
And, you know, parasites are often present.
We're discovering more and more about what parasites are doing to people, that they're present.
And when you have parasitic infection going on at the same time, you have Lyme, and Lyme mutates into a parasitic form as well.
The liver flukes like to hang out in the bile ducts of the liver. So if you don't do a parasite cleanse at the same time, you're doing your liver cleanse to flush them out. It's like tying a knot in the end of a balloon.
You know, it keeps the. Keeps the toxins in.
And so you have to do the parasite cleanse, kind of blast them out of there. So you start getting all of these other toxins out of the body.
And, you know, so it's. It's a. People think, well, it doesn't sound complicated if you're just looking at one or two things at a time. But when you look at the overall picture of what all needs to happen and come together in order to get your body functioning properly again, it gets more complicated.
I just read a study where they were talking about 46 different DNA strands of Lyme disease.
It mutates into 14 different life forms that I've discovered. Well, I didn't discover them, but that I've found patterns for. And then you've got the CO infections.
And one of the CO infections that I figured out in about 2007 was the mycoplasma for tuberculosis. And that's very common in Lyme patients. Also, there was no research for it back then. And I did streptomycin shots I did twice a week for six weeks. And the diop was so bad, I smelled like a rotting animal, it was so disgusting.
And my. My doctor and I were. We. We did Latin dancing. We were doing cha cha. We were doing a performing cha cha routine. And every time I left my arm because it smelled so bad, I was like, I'm so sorry.
And yeah, it was, it was. It was crazy. But we figured that piece of it out. And in 2019, the CDC and NIH released some reports saying that humans could contract tuberculosis from deer.
So it's another CO infection.
And. And we believe that the Lyme feeds off that mycoplasma.
So the mycotoxins are very common in Lyme patients as well.
And that's. I don't. I don't have any scientific evidence for that because I don't have the money to pay for studies, but it seems pretty Consistent that the Lyme and the pathogens are feeding off that. Like the parasites feed off of iron.
So, like, when we're. When we're working on getting rid of a parasitic infection, we kind of starve the body of iron and then replenish it afterwards.
Because you'll see a lot of that, you know, in the test results. You'll see the iron going all over the place, Whereas there's too much and there's none. And, you know, it's all over the place.
So there's all these factors that you have to consider.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: So you're talking about, you know, first you said you could track biofilms by looking at the fibrinogen level in the blood. I mean, will it be elevated if there are a lot of biofilms, or how does that work?
[00:21:22] Speaker C: Yeah, in. In the blood test, it comes. It. It shows up as fibrin. Fibrinogen.
Right before they took my IV port out, that's how I got my blood infection was through my IV port.
They were. It was right before the emergency surgery. So they were taking some blood out in preparation for removing it. And the biofilm came into the syringe when they were drawing the blood, and it. It was like little white dots, and then they all globbed together, and it looked like Styrofoam.
And the doctors were like, what is this? We've never. There was four doctors in the clinic, and none of them had ever seen anything like it.
And they shipped the whole thing off to the lab like that, and it came back fibrin.
And that's what it was.
That's what the biofilm is made from.
And it's the same thing. Like the people who have the strands that they're pulling out for the COVID vaccine, those light strands that they're pulling out, that's a fibrin also. So that's a biofilm.
And that's why the nattokinase is working to help people with that particular issue.
So.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: So how. How do you. So is not a kinase pretty much a universal or. I know some people use, like, lumbrokinase as well.
[00:22:54] Speaker C: We rotate through different enzymes because you have to outsmart it. You know, the Lyme mutates and. And all of these things are active and then. And then inactive. And so we. We rotate through antibiotics, through different enzymes to outsmart the pathogens because they're designed to survive.
So if you just put somebody on doxycycline for six months or whatever it is. Some of these people that I work with have been on doxy for years. It's crazy.
And, and that only works on certain forms of the Lyme. So then it mutates or it hides in the, the biofilm. That's the purpose of it. And it waits until the antibiotics are out of the body and then it comes back out.
So that's what people call, you know, remission.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: So, so what do you. What would be good rotations on. I mean, you say rotate. What, what does that look like? You know, with the antibiotics, with the biofilm breakers and how. What does that look like?
[00:24:03] Speaker C: It depends on what the person has and what's active. So I use my device and it shows me the patterns of what's active. Like, you know, in, in one session it might be, you know, showing up more in the liver or that that's very common that, that it's in the liver because things get stuck there. So the energy, it's higher.
It might be like the foggy thinking, you know, and that's biofilm in the brain. I, I believe that the biofilm was also what was causing the tinnitus in, in addition to the pathogen.
My ears were ringing so loudly that I couldn't filter out the background. You know, like, I had to lip read for a while.
And so different, different enzymes. And the important part about the enzymes is, you know, just like when you're using probiotics, you want to rotate through different probiotics because you want a broad variety in order to have a balance in your gut flora. So it's kind of the same thing. Nattokinase is very commonly used with blood infections and blood products. So that's why I say nattokinase.
And it's also effective with a lot of the spike proteins and that type of thing. So it's a really great enzyme. But even digestive enzymes, you typically using those when you're eating, and it helps you break down your food. Well, if you take those enzymes and use them in between meals, then they, then they work on the biofilm.
Xylitol works on biofilm. And that's why it has a medical warning on there about that you may have side effects from it. It's because it dissolves biofilm.
And when we're dissolving the biofilm, we have to look at the entire history of what the patient has been through, because anything can come out.
You know, if they've had MRSA or something major like that in their background, you have to consider that.
And you also have to consider like how thick their blood is because Enzymes in the blood. So if somebody's already on a blood thinner, then we have to work with the doctor to make sure that their blood doesn't get too thin.
So it's really an individual journey.
Usually Lyme people will have all of the same things, but not necessarily in the same order, you know, because of the mutations and that type of thing. And I, I started studying more about the blood last year.
I was doing research because all of a sudden they changed the definition of Lyme diagnoses at the cdc and I thought, and. And the cases shot up by 70%.
And it's still only like a test sample with what they defined.
But I thought, you know, they've been hiding this for 50 years. Why all of a sudden are they promoting it?
And so in my research, I found that they are developing a vaccine.
And the reason why it hasn't been released is they have not done a significant amount of studies or enough studies, studies to show what it will do to somebody. If they already have Lyme and they haven't been diagnosed and take the vaccine, I think it's a bad idea to use that vaccine. That's my personal opinion.
But if you look at the viral vaccines, they're not very effective because the viruses mutate. And in order to develop a vaccine every year, you have to guess at how they're going to mutate, which is why they're ineffective, because they guess wrong most of the time.
So it's better to just build the immune system, in my opinion, to fight off the viruses than it is to do a vaccine that's going to expose you to a mutation of a virus that might not even be active, you know, that creates even more. Right.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: I mean, here you have, you said you have 16 forms of the Lyme, and then you have how many different kinds of borrelia that you have? So you have to times that by 16.
And then you have the fever relapsing, you know, and then, you know, it's just all the complexity becomes too much to have a vaccine that is going to hit all of that, you know, and like you said, they, they share intelligence, you know, so you have one pathogen, it gets intelligence from another, and then it incorporates some of that in order to be able to evade the immune system and be able to survive in that environment.
[00:29:13] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And that's why they call them stealth infections.
That's where that name came from is because they're very hardy because of the way they're designed, you know, and so there's a lot of people that believe in vaccines. And I'm not an anti vaxxer. I believe that there's a place for them. I believe they're effective. They're more effective with bacterial infections than they are with viral infections. And I have a great viral product that it. Not only it encapsulates the virus so it can't attach to a host cell.
And viruses can't replicate unless they have a host cell, so it encapsulates it. So it basically dies off. Like, I get shingles. I've. You know, when, when I had Lyme at the, at like super active, my viral load was 8 to 14 times the normal load on everything. Like all five strains of, of Epstein Barr, Cytomeglio, HHB6, all of them. I had them all.
And when I, when I take this at the first time, I get a zing.
The, the biggest it's ever gotten is this big. And it usually never even. It just turns pink. I mean, like, it's a fabulous product.
And, and it also builds up the immune system.
So like, when Covid first hit, I had just ordered it in preparation for launching my book and everything. And so I sent all of my employees home with bottles of humicillin and a case of water.
Like, okay, just say, take all this home with you so that you can try and prevent getting this.
And it's a fabulous product, but that, that's more effective when you build the immune system than, than doing things that are going to weaken it.
So I, I just believe that the body, you know, when it, when it's functioning properly, we don't need a whole lot of other things.
And part of the Lyme journey, when you get rid of it, you have to reprogram the immune system.
Like my daughter was in the second grade when we got rid of it, you know, so she was exposed to colds and all of this stuff all the time.
And the first few colds that she had, she would come home and her 104 fever, because her, her little body had been sick her whole life. And so her body was like, oh, no, another infection 104ft. You know, it just went crazy.
And after a while, we got it to calm down and now, now it acts normal. She's 24 now, but now it acts normal and doesn't go into overdrive. But, but at first it does, and it does with everybody because it's been in battlefield mode for so long.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: What, and what, what kind of symptoms? Because she, she got it in utero. So what kind of symptoms was she dealing with?
[00:32:31] Speaker C: She had severe fatigue. She had some cognitive issues, and. And some of that. You know, she's learned how to compensate because she. I got bit the first month of my pregnancy, so she developed in it and then was born with it.
But when I kept her active the whole time because I just wanted her moving, you know, even if it was slow moving, just to move, because I. I think when people stop moving, that's like the end, you know, and same thing with older people. When they stop moving, that's when they go downhill very fast. So I kept her moving, and I had her in gymnastics and dance, and she would do an event and then have to lay down, you know, while the other kids were all running around.
And after six weeks of the biofilm protocol, she came home from school, and she was in the second grade. And the teachers had.
They had contacted me and said, you know, I think she needs to go into a public school and have an IEP program. And I was like, I think we got it. I think we got it. Just hold on for a minute. You know, let me have time to work through this protocol.
And then they called me and said she was learning just as fast or faster than the other kids. That was three weeks after we started it. And then six weeks after we started it, she came home from school and she said, mommy, I think this is the best Monday of my life. And I said, why, honey? And she said, because I'm not tired.
And that's when I knew we had it, because she had never said that before, you know, and then we had to. We had her in tutoring for three years because we had to go back and relearn all of the sight words and the math and everything. So she was going to school and learning, you know, kindergarten forward at the same time to catch up to the other kids. And she graduated from college with honors, but, you know, she had to be disciplined because she still has some cognitive issues from that time, but she's healthy.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: And that's incredible. I mean, what. What a. What a warrior. Yeah. Too. And what a feeling as a mother. Yeah. Because here I. You've.
The line came from you. I mean, obviously, you didn't create the line, but you were the one bit. And then, you know, you gave that to your daughter.
And then to see your. Your daughter being able to get through this and then succeed and then now graduating at such a high level, that. That's amazing.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. And, you know, you're desperate when it's your child. I mean, I. I didn't want to be sick myself. But when they said your daughter got this in utero, you know, it's that feeling if you've ever gone through an experience where somebody you love gets cancer or something like that, where you're.
You're just numb, you know, and then you become desperate. And, you know, I don't know if I would be here if I didn't go through that experience with my daughter, because I was so determined to live and to be there for her and to get her well.
I don't know if I would have thought. Fought that hard if it was just me, you know? And when I crossed over, my brother David was there, and he said, I'm. It's not your time. You're going back.
And, you know, I didn't know what that meant at the time, but now that I'm helping all these people with their Lyme disease, I know that that was part of the journey, and I know that I went through those experiences so that I could help others.
And I don't want patients for life.
You know, I'm not into this. Slap a band aid on and keep them for life. I want friends that are out there living their lives again, you know, and if. If I can help people do that, then that's. That's what I want to do. Because it's horrible. It's a horrible disease.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's really horrific. And. And, yeah, and like you said, I mean, it manifests in so many different ways. So it's interesting. Yeah. You making the point. You know, depending on where the biofilm lands, that's usually where the symptomology. Yeah.
You know, that. That's what determines the symptomology.
So how you're talking about this biofilm protocol is it essentially just nattokinase? But then you said to rotate, so it's.
[00:37:22] Speaker C: It's various enzymes, and I just, you know, I'll have several different kinds and then rotate through them, and they. And there's usually numerous enzymes in. In each of the products.
The xylitol also works.
And. And it depends on somebody's reactions, too, you know, because allergies go way up when you have.
When you've been sick for a long time. I call them opportunistic infections. So that's your candidas and your viruses and your allergies, like food allergies. People are lit up all over the place. That's one of the things that shows up on my scan. So it's just like red, red, red, and, you know, all of those things are robbing your body's energy from healing. So everybody gets a copy of every scan that I do, and it's extensive. And so then it's like, well, stay away from these foods. That's like the number one thing I'd say. Stay away from these foods.
Reduce the environmental allergies if you can. A lot of times you don't have any, you know, control over that, but you can control your foods. And eventually, like, the only food allergies I have anymore are pretty much GMO foods.
Like, if I go out and have gluten somewhere, my body does not handle that well. I can go over to Europe and eat gluten fine.
You know, and you have an accent, so I know you know what I'm talking about.
[00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we were just. I mean, in fact, young May, we were in Italy and in July, August, you know, just. Just came back from Sweden. So, yeah, I can truly attest to that. The.
The grain. Yeah, the. The impact of grain on your digestive system is quite different in Europe than it is here in the United States.
[00:39:20] Speaker C: Yeah, well, in all their foods. You know, you come back here and you're like, man, I feel like crap when I start eating American food. So I'm really hoping that changes quickly. At least some of it is changing.
But, you know, the cleaner you can eat, that, that helps. I, I eat all organic. I, I actually have a farm and I have an orchard and gardens, and I raise my own food now.
But that's all important to it. Any. Anything that's robbing the body of. Of the energy you need to. To heal. And the. The more you eliminate, the more you have leftover to. To heal. And that's what we want to do is like reprogram your body.
So, so some of the products and the. The order that we do it, and it's truly based on somebody's reactions.
And, and so it's just like constantly getting feedback from the patient, you know, doing the scan, and that's part of it, but it's also their feedback.
And a lot of people have this mast cell reaction that's showing up more and more. And I've never truly. I've never encountered.
You probably have a broader practice than I do, but I've never encountered anybody with mast cell who doesn't have Lyme.
So I believe it's a Lyme related issue.
And as we get these people to heal, that calms down, but the scan results because it's telling you what foods you're allergic to. It greatly reduces the mast cell Reaction because you can see that this is what you need to stay away from right now. And it can move. You know, I typically scan every two weeks, but it can move. So it's like I'll introduce something one thing at a time for people like that, because you want to know what, what. Like if you put somebody on five things at a time, you don't know what they're reacting to, but it helps a lot with that.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: And so with the biofilm, I mean, you alluded to it a little bit earlier.
You really, when you start breaking it down, you really don't know what is behind the biofilm. And obviously that's going to be released into the bloodstream and your body's going to react to it.
And yes, you need kind of the eliminatory pathways open like you mentioned. But how do you deal then with what's coming out? Because it can be anything.
[00:41:59] Speaker C: Yeah, well, when I'm doing an intake with a new patient, I ask a ton of questions and get their whole medical background on things like that. And as a precautionary move to set up, we, we get the antibiotics in place for what we anticipate might happen. We may never need them.
You know, you don't know. But if you, you know, if you like. The antibiotic that worked for my blood infection was minocycline, which, you know, is kind of an off the wall antibiotic. Like they were trying different things. They didn't want to take me off antibiotics to get a culture.
And we ended up finding out that the testing facility was in France. There wasn't even one here in the United States at that time. So it wouldn't have done any good to take me off of it.
But that's, that was the antibiotic we ended up using that was effective and it's not a common one, but, you know, it's out outsmarting the, the pathogens.
So we, if, you know, somebody's had like sepsis or MRSA or anything major like that, any kind of blood infection, if they don't remember the name of it, like you have to give it the labs and we have, we work with the doctors to get those antibiotics in place before we ever start dissolving the biofilm.
And that way, if it shows up on the scan, you know that that's really the scariest part of the protocol because the first part is detoxing and building the immune, and the last part is detoxing and building the immune. So the middle part, where we're actually killing the pathogens when the biofilm is dissolved, that's the scariest part. Part, because you have to, you have to be, be ready to move quickly, depending on what comes out.
And, and we always start slowly. Like you just gently go into dissolving the biofoam. You want, you don't want somebody going, oh, here's the, you know, here's a handful of enzymes. I'm going to take a ball. And then, you know, all hell breaks loose, so to speak.
Plus, like I said, it thins the blood. So, you know, everybody's reaction is a little different.
And some people will have allergies to some of the enzymes. So we have to go by feedback and where it is and going, you know, with educated caution.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: And, and the, the enzymes, I mean, they, they would go anywhere. So, I mean, you're talking about. And depending on where the biofilm is, you know, that's, that's the symptoms you, you would have. So, but taking then the enzymes, it really doesn't matter if it's in your shoulder or in your head or, you know, in your liver or wherever it may be.
[00:45:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it'll work anywhere.
And you know, and, and it's not necessarily going to dissolve it the same in everybody. You know, it really is a individual journey, but that part of it speeds it up. And then I put people on superfoods.
That speeds it up as well because it, that's building up their body and you want to get their gut working because your immune system's in your gut and that's usually trashed. I, I've got people that come that have had Lyme for 30 years and they've been on, you know, antibiotics forever.
So, so that's a big part of it also is repairing the gut and getting that back in balance. And like we, I use a product that removes the glyphosate and chlorella and, you know, greens also. They help get rid of the heavy metals. They help, they've got enzymes in them. Plant fruits have enzymes. That's why you're healthier when you eat plants or, you know, fruits and vegetables is because you've got enzymes and they kind of keep the biofilm at bay when you eat them on a regular basis.
Oregano oil is what I use for when, when I'm doing a parasite cleanse because it dissolves the biofilm in the gut that the parasites are hiding in.
That's why it's hard to get rid of parasites, is they create a biofilm.
So I use oregano oil for that.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: Yeah, and that. Exactly. I Mean, that's.
And it's fascinating with these biofilms. I mean, what we're finding out is that it also, these strands, they use them for kind of communication between these different communities that's under the biofilm. So it's like they're optic cables that they use for phone conversation so they can tell each other what's going on and how can they improve their survivability.
So the intelligence of these stealth pathogens is just phenomenal.
[00:47:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
So, you know, it is a path and that, like I do a parasite cleanse every three months because I love eating sushi.
You know, it's.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: It's worth it, you know, then to do the parasite cleanse every. Yeah.
[00:47:59] Speaker C: So, you know, if, if you don't do it and the people who've never done anything, you have to, you know, you have to take a much slower path to, to their healing, especially in the beginning with this detox. Because if they've never done a cleanse, they've got all the chemicals from all of our foods and the parasites and all of this stuff built up in them that they have to eliminate. And if you go too fast, it's too miserable and you're going to lose people, not, not lose to death necessarily, although you can go into a toxic overload.
You have to watch the alkalinity and, and it, you know, you.
It's a process.
And one of the things that I do also, as I tell people only drink spring water and a high alkaline water. Like, I love Icelandic and Volvo, which both come from volcano, so they have a higher mineral content.
But we drink water in between meals, not with meals.
And people don't realize that drinking water with a meal dilutes your stomach acid and it makes it harder for your food to digest. So your food ends up petrifying in your gut, which is really unhealthy. And then, and then your body creates more acid to digest it, and that causes acid reflux.
So drinking water with a meal actually creates more acid in the long run and it creates a medical situation.
So, you know, people, they're funny when I haven't eaten with somebody and they're like, you don't want water. You don't want this. You don't want something with your meal. I'm like, no, now I drink my water in between my meals. And when you do it in between your meals and it's an alkaline water, then it turns your body alkaline. So pathogens can't exist in an alkaline environment. They can exist in an oxygen rich environment.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:12] Speaker C: So like I put, I put hydrogen peroxide, a couple drops in my water and that oxygenates the body and it's, you know, that also has to go slowly, but, but it's a good way to get more oxygen into your body.
[00:50:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that.
[00:50:36] Speaker C: I should say food grade.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: I want to clarify food grade hydrogen peroxide, not like what you throw on a cut.
[00:50:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good, Maryland. It's been wonderful. And, and what a journey. What a journey. And, and people can find your book just on, on like Amazon or Barnes and Noble or, or it's on my.
[00:50:57] Speaker C:
[email protected] and it's also on Amazon and it's called Over My Dead Body. There's several books called that. So you have to put my name in there also and then it'll take you right to that. Or if you put my name in there, I've got a couple books that I've written.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: Yeah, wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Marilyn, for taking this time. I appreciate this.
[00:51:20] Speaker C: You bet. It was a pleasure. Thank you.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: Absolutely. My pleasure as well. Have a great rest of the day.
[00:51:27] Speaker C: Thank you. You too.
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