Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to Integrative Lime Solutions with Dr. Carl Feld. I am so excited about the show.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: That we have ahead of us.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: We have some phenomenal information that could save lives. I am Dr. Michael Carlfelt, and with me, I have my co host, Tanya Hobo.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: You're going to need to tune in to what's going on today. The information is unpacked.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, don't step away.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: So excited. Let's go ahead and get this started.
Welcome to Integrative Lime Solutions with Dr. Carl felt. And, gosh, for those listeners out there, I mean, we always have incredible stories that are shared with us today. But, I mean, I'm talking about, you really need some hope and inspiration. You've got to stay tuned and listen to Kate because on the other side of this line, she's done multiple triathlons. Iron man, like, she just know the picture perfect of resilience and such a warrior. So I'm super excited to hear your journey. Thank you so much for joining us, Kate.
[00:01:13] Speaker D: Well, thank you, Tanya. I appreciate it.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: I'm really excited a lot.
[00:01:19] Speaker C: Right?
[00:01:19] Speaker B: That's a lot. That's incredible.
[00:01:22] Speaker C: I mean, people don't do this before if they ever don't have Lyme, let alone afterwards. So very impressive.
[00:01:29] Speaker D: Well, not to scare anybody, but it was part of my healing.
Okay.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: Which is good. That's great.
[00:01:35] Speaker D: Not necessary, but for me, yeah.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: And sometimes we just need to kind of prove that to ourselves that somehow I can do this.
I get the ability.
[00:01:50] Speaker D: That's definitely part of it.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Where did it all begin for you?
[00:01:58] Speaker D: That is always going to be the question.
I can only tell you when I was diagnosed, I don't know how long I've had Lyme. It could have been childhood, it could have been early adulthood. But in my fifty s, I was training for triathlons and I had a coach and I was exhausted. And so he would tell me, take a day off. And I still was overtrained and I took two days off and the overtraining just never went away. So I finally just kind of ignored it, which is probably not the best thing to do, but I just wanted to live my life. So I was pretty much chronically tired all the time.
And I had a physical set up with just my general practitioner. And I said, I've got these symptoms. And I had some severe migraines, too, which I used to call full body migraines because I just felt them everywhere.
And I said, my dad had rheumatoid arthritis. I don't know if I have some autoimmune but I was only doing blood work. Could you just check that out? And so she did, and she ran a panel of autoimmune, but what she tested me for, which I had no idea, was Lyme. And fortunately for me, I came back positive, because, as we all know, a lot of people don't come back positive and they have to just treat on symptoms.
So she gave me four weeks of doxycycline.
I took a dose and was flat out the next day, just as sick as I could be. Fortunately, I worked from home.
And the other fortunate thing is my boss had line, so he really got what I was going through and really let me kind of flex my hours and do what I needed to do, which so grateful for that.
So I told my running partner at the time, I'm going to go on these antibiotics. In a couple of weeks, I'll be back and we'll be running. And I never ran with her again.
I just slid into it. They sent me to a neurologist because I was still having migraines while I was still on that first round of doxycycline, and they were not about to give me any more. And I started reading on lime on the Facebook pages that you really need more than that. And he was all about that. Oh, yeah, that's fine. I'll prescribe four more weeks for you. And he did.
And then I found LLMD, and she put me on some other antibiotics and some supplements. And this is when things started to fall apart a little for me in the medical community. She put me on something.
I was off gluten, off dairy, off sugar, alcohol, all the things they tell you to do. But she put me on a supplement that was supposed to increase my immune system. It was called trans factor or something like that, but it was made from cow colostrum. And I got migraines. I mean, I even was in the emergency room at times because they were so bad. And I called her office and I said, I feel like I'm dying.
I need help. And they would never return my calls after that. I don't know if that phrase was what they didn't want to hear. So I had to find other method. I went to a natural doctor who was an acupuncturist, and he did a zytoscan to diagnose me, and did cupping with blood ludding, and just some different kind of things, and it was really expensive.
I've heard it said that Lyme is the rich man's disease because it's so expensive to treat.
So I stopped seeing him and started with another LLMD.
And things were getting worse and worse.
I was worse on the antibiotics by far than I was when I wasn't. When I was off of them at different times, I would start to feel better, but was not symptom free. So the second LlMd thought I needed more, and I was on by the end of it with her. Probably ten to 15 different medications, injections for blood thinners.
The overload was my body couldn't handle it.
So my husband, along with this, one of the things that happened is, besides being suicidal, I was at an extremely low body weight. I'm almost five seven, and I was down to almost 108 pounds.
My husband looked at me one night as I was getting my pajamas on, and he started to cry. And he said I looked like somebody from a concentration camp.
And he had heard about this naturopath from a friend of his.
And even though he had was temporarily working part time at his company, he was, like, bound to determine he was going to go see this lady and I was going to come with him. And I was like, we can't afford that right now. You're not working full time. And he was not listening to me, made me come with him, and it was all just because he wanted to get me in with her. And this lady looked at me and said, I can help you.
And I just started to cry because I had not had anyone who really believed that they could help me. Until that point, I had been ready to go on a pick line with my LlMd. Except she wouldn't return the calls to me. She wouldn't return the calls to the office. Was very disorganized, and I just thought, I couldn't put my faith in that doctor. So the day that my husband saw this naturopath, I set up an appointment for myself. I went off all the medications and went on this natural protocol, and I was in remission in three months.
Not full remission. You don't go from being that sick. My husband had actually made phone calls to the local cemetery because we all thought I was going to die soon.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: That's incredible. In three months.
How would you describe the mean? What did that look like?
[00:08:58] Speaker D: She called it the baby food approach. She said my body was too weak. She had a biofeedback machine, FDA approved, and she designed my program from that. It was a lot of herbal supplements, and it was all drops in the beginning until I got stronger. And then she changed. They were the same formulas, but they were stronger in tablet form.
A lot of lime supplements, a lot of immune system support, adrenals, because mine were shot, gut healing, because my gut was absolutely a disaster.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: And how did you respond to the program in the beginning? Did you just all of a sudden start to feel better and better and better, or did you go through a little bit of a crisis in the beginning? I mean, what did that journey look like?
[00:09:55] Speaker D: I don't remember ever having any kind of crisis. I think I went from just very slowly, gradually feeling better every day.
I wouldn't say it was noticeable every day, but after three months, looking back, I could see, I mean, I wasn't ready to run a marathon or anything, but I wasn't laying in bed.
I was feeling better. And all that neurological lyme that was really my deal was starting to go away.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Just in three months.
That's amazing.
[00:10:36] Speaker D: Well, that was just the tip of the iceberg.
I was with her for a year before I was really a lot better and talking about racing again and actually did a race again. I started with her in 2016, I think, early, and I did my first race in 2017, just a little, tiny one, but I was so excited.
[00:11:01] Speaker C: Oh, I bet it's not crazy anymore, but it's just shocking how a lot of people that are on antibiotics, they say they feel so much better until they get off, and then their gut's a mess and they get back on, and then you say you felt horrible on them.
It's just so crazy how we're all so different, and then you can be on these antibiotics for years, and then three months, switching it all up to more natural stuff, and you can notice a difference. It's just incredible.
[00:11:38] Speaker D: Yeah. I've said I don't want to knock the antibiotics, because it's possible in the beginning that they really did help me. I've heard that when you start taking an antibiotic with Lyme and you feel like you're herxing and you're just as sick as you can be, that it's doing something, there's something in there. So it's definitely possible that they helped me in the beginning, but I also think by the end of it, I was on so much medication that my system could not handle it.
My brain was crazy. I had this whole idea of this list where the list of people who I needed to stay alive for, and the list got shorter over time. And even in those moments, I knew that that was crazy because it doesn't feel rational, and I knew it at the time. So, for me, getting through those moments just looked like this is how I feel right this minute. In another hour, 2 hours, I'm going to feel differently. Maybe not till tomorrow, but just ride it out. And that's kind of what got me.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: Through those moments and those you mentioned also having suicidal thoughts, and that's something that a lot of Lyme sufferers been talking about.
Tell me a little bit about what was going through your head and what you were thinking at the time.
[00:13:17] Speaker D: It would make more sense if I told you that the pain that I was experiencing and the lack of living my life that I was experiencing were driving me to these thoughts, and I'm sure that they were not helping, but it was almost like the inflammation in my brain was just not allowing my brain to function normally.
I have three wonderful grown children, a fourth that I raised. I've got grandchildren, and I've got my husband, who loves me. Some of these people were not on my list by the end of it, my husband was not on this list of people I thought would be severely impacted if I was not here. And now it's like, I don't know how I could have thought that for a day, much less that thought keep coming back to me. So I realized that the lime was making my brain, my inflamed brain, think things that weren't true. And there was something at least rational enough for me to know that that was a thing and that I was going to get through this and not have those thoughts.
[00:14:36] Speaker C: Yeah, it really is.
I think a lot of it, the inflammation, but just the line that is in our brain. And really, we stop and we look back on our stories, and we're like, I'm not that kind of person. How could you ever have different thoughts like that?
It's not all in our head.
We're sick. Our brain is sick. Our head is sick, and it makes us just do and think just crazy thoughts. So you're definitely not alone in that, for sure. And a lot of times, it sounds more like you would realize shortly after that this wasn't logical. Whereas some people, they don't discover that they weren't logical for many, many years.
[00:15:22] Speaker D: Right. I think I knew it in the moment, but it's almost like you can't help but think that. Go there.
I can't even describe it now. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Thank goodness.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah, right, exactly.
[00:15:39] Speaker C: None of it needs to make sense right now. We're just on the other side, because so much of it just doesn't make sense.
How can one day a person be so sick with Lyme that they can't walk, but the next day, they're walking around fine.
None of it makes sense.
Yeah.
As far as your symptoms, obviously, the really strong fatigue, we've got the neurological thoughts like that.
Did you have other issues?
[00:16:13] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh, I had so many.
The migraines were the thing that started it all night. Sweats, hot flashes, the inflammation, insomnia. My neck was stiff, that whole meningitis feeling. So, I mean, I told my doctor once, I said I could just stop the nearest person on the street and beg them to rub my neck. It's so bad.
The mental confusion. I had the whole thing with driving to my daughter's house, going, I have no idea where I am.
I know that a lot of people have experienced that. My kids were asking my husband, mom's not remembering anything I'm really worried about or what is going on. And I think this is before I was diagnosed.
TMJ.
That was a big one. Those were all things I kind of experienced before. But while I was being treated, my blood pressure was super low, my body temperature was usually low. I had the muscle and the eye twitches, the air hunger. You go up the stairs. I mean, I'm a triathlete. Go up the stairs. And I couldn't catch my breath, I couldn't blow dry my hair. It was exhausting.
Eczema.
I get, like, tingly fingers in the middle of the night. I still get that every now and then.
Lyme arthritis, which is still kind of there, at least in one place, and a lot of sensory stuff, which was really weird. I told my husband one time, it's like the ground is moving. It's like I feel like I'm slipping, but there's nothing to slip on.
I couldn't go to the movies because I couldn't take in all that sensory. So it was all very neurological. So a lot of really weird stuff. And then there was the weight loss, which I kind of think might have had more to do with the medication.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Than the Lyme itself, like the antibiotics. Is that what you're talking about?
[00:18:20] Speaker D: Yeah. But I was on antivirals, I was on antibacterials, I was on Lovinox, the blood thinner injections, I was on b twelve injections. I was on, I don't know, all kinds of stuff, because I was diagnosed with all the usual stuff, but with Lyme and babesia and bartonella, but also histoplasmosis, and, oh, I can't even remember all of them. Candida, mycoplasma pneumonia, chlamydia pneumonia, and the adrenals.
So every time something new would pop up, she would add medications, the LLMD would add medications.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: And this was tested through the zytoscan or through.
[00:19:10] Speaker D: How is all of the zytoscan?
Was the natural healer Guy the acupuncture? I just saw him for a few months in between the two llmds. All the other medications were the second LLMD. The first one had me rotating some antibiotics, but I was not on so many things. So the second LLMD, just every time the blood work showed something else, she would add more medications to combat whatever it was.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And so as you were going through kind of your experience these three months, what kind of steps by step? What was resolving? Was it kind of your pain you start to lift? Was it your thinking? Was it all of it together?
[00:20:01] Speaker D: Yeah. With the naturopath, when I went with her, I still certainly was getting migraines, maybe just not as often.
I think I was feeling everything, just less often.
I would say I'm still healing my gut, and this is five years past that, that I've been in total remission. So I don't think my gut will ever be perfect again. But I can eat most everything. I'm a very healthy eater anyway.
[00:20:40] Speaker C: Yeah. The gut issues are just like you mentioned earlier, not against antibiotics at all. I just don't think with chronic Lyme disease, which most people have because we can't get a diagnosis in time, I just don't think it should be our first option. I just think there's so many other great options out there if you need to incorporate them down the road, if you're not getting better, by all means. But every time we hear antibiotics, people struggle with their guts, and we all have gut issues anyways, we don't need help damaging that. We could do it all on our own.
[00:21:16] Speaker D: Right. And then what that does to the brain, which is already in trouble with the Lyme, it's just a bad cycle.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: Yeah. You have 70% to 80% of your immune system is along the gut lining. It controls a lot of the inflammatory signaling throughout your whole body. You have the gut and the brain cross talk that happens when the gut is inflamed. The brain is inflamed. Obviously, going after it with the antibiotic will impact that system and will put your brain more in a challenged place.
That kind of catch 22 in a way. You go after the lyme, but you're then making symptoms worse in some ways.
If you can do it in a more natural way to start with, obviously that would be a better choice and there'd be less ramifications from it.
[00:22:18] Speaker D: Yeah. Hindsight, I think I would have tried something more natural to start with, but, yeah, I will never know. I'm just grateful for where I am now.
[00:22:27] Speaker C: Yeah, we definitely learned the hard way through this journey that so many people just don't know anything about.
It truly is just kind of a crazy disease. For sure.
[00:22:41] Speaker D: It is crazy, and I just feel for everyone who has it, because there is no true roadmap for all of us. It's different for each one of us, and I think that's what makes it hard. Before I was diagnosed, I had a bike accident, and I fractured my pelvis in three places. And it was a beautiful June morning. I remember being in bed because I was immobilized and just so sad because I could hear people going by my house and running early in this beautiful morning. But looking back and it's like, you know what? I was back in seven weeks. That was a sure thing. I was getting better, and there's a roadmap for that. There's no roadmap for this.
So I think people just need to believe that they're going to get better. I mean, that's honestly part of what helped me get there. I saw a massage therapist who also had Lyme, and she had been very sick. And I went, she seemed pretty good. One time I asked her how she was, and she said, I'm doing pretty well. And I said, this is where I was at the moment. Okay, tell me what you're doing. Give me the list so I can do it, too.
And she said, I just ignore it. And I was like, well, I don't think that's. I thought to myself, I'm not sure that's really helpful, but I totally get it now.
It can't take over your life. And if you can believe that what is happening to you is making you better instead of worse. When I started to hurts, when I went back to running, I believed in my heart, and I wasn't making this up or trying to Pollyanna myself well, but I believed in my heart that the herks that I had after a run say if I had a migraine the next day, it was getting it out of my system, and I just had to detox the best that I could and support that and keep going. And I wanted to be active again so badly that I pushed through that.
I think that's part of what got me on the other side.
I fully believe that twelve step is a great thing. I have alcoholism in my family of origin. And I've done twelve step. And those first three steps about recognizing the craziness and letting it go and letting your higher power take it, that helped me get through this, too, that way of thinking.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: So you incorporated that twelve step process then, in your Lyme journey.
[00:25:33] Speaker D: I didn't know that's what I was doing, but yes, I did. I had that approach. I was in therapy for childhood trauma, and I read a book about someone who their Lyme journey, I think it was called into the woods or out of the woods. That makes more sense. And she said that they believe that the bacteria looks for trauma in your body.
And so those of us with trauma backgrounds may be more affected by Lyme. I don't know if that's true or not, but it makes sense to me.
So the therapy and the twelve step definitely helped me let go and just believe that I'm going to get better.
[00:26:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I love that. And I do believe that past trauma, childhood trauma definitely can inhibit our healing. I think that needs to be incorporated into our healing journey is to heal those past emotions however you want to do it. There's many ways you can do that, but I think that in order to fully become well again, you have to attack that and acknowledge it and deal with it. And I think that some people, I don't know, I feel blessed. I had an amazing childhood. I didn't have any trauma like I had trauma in life by losing loved ones or things like that. But as far as any type of emotional trauma growing up, I can't say that I have any. And I think sometimes people aren't even aware that they suffer from it. So Lyme can, a lot of times, bring out those different things. But I love that you incorporated this twelve step. I have some really good friends that have been in the program for years, and I kind of like the whole guideline of it. And whoever created this, I think was pretty smart person. So I love hearing that you incorporate it and you didn't even know it, right?
[00:27:43] Speaker D: Not sure I knew that's what I was doing, but where I started from was very. The way I dealt with my trauma was very.
Didn't let anyone help me.
I was always the leader or the one in charge and couldn't be the one that people helped. And lime will not let you not learn that lesson. So we all learn what we need to learn.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Yeah, we do.
[00:28:14] Speaker D: And that was one of the things I had to learn.
[00:28:17] Speaker C: And I also liked that because I say this to a lot of people that when you're going through this journey, you have to find your why. You have to find why you want to live, why you want to keep on, and something that you're super passionate about. And obviously it's your health and your running and doing all these amazing triathlons and stuff. And that was kind of how you pushed your way through to get it because you wanted it back so bad and not recommending to people, right? Like, don't have Lyme and go out and try to run a triathlon, and maybe we push ourselves too hard. I get that we could have extra setbacks, but know your limits, know your boundaries. But I think that that's so important. And I agree with you. I think that played a huge role in your healing was to find your why and your passion and what you wanted back out of life, and you went for it.
[00:29:10] Speaker D: Well, I started to realize when I was getting well that things like hiking made me feel incredibly better.
Swimming made me feel incredibly better. These slower, rhythmic kind of things felt very detoxing to me.
And so when I had been with my naturopath for about a year, it was the beginning of 2018, because I'd always wanted to do Iron man. And I thought, well, I'm going to take this next year and sort of train for it, but not tell anyone or sign up or just follow a plan and see how my body does. And it felt like it felt better because you cannot push hard. I know this doesn't make sense. When you're training for an iron man, what you have to do is you have to go slow, and it's very incremental. And I did it over almost two years of training, so there's nothing fast about that. But I wasn't starting from a really strong place either.
But it really felt like it detoxed me most of the time.
So that's what I was saying about. I really feel like that the training actually was helpful in my healing, not just my brain, which it was liberating, for sure, but also my body.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: What made you decide that? Now I feel like I want to do this. I mean, did you kind of come to a point where you felt well enough to consider it, or did you just feel that this is mentally something I needed to do, and I'm just going to do it to prove to myself?
[00:31:10] Speaker D: Well, I have to tell you, my naturopath was not thrilled with the idea because of my adrenals, but it was something I had always wanted, and I was starting to feel alive again. And it had been so long since I felt that way and training and racing makes me feel alive. And to me, there was nothing I was ever going to do that was bigger than Iron man. So it was almost like, if I could do this race, I was alive. It was proof to me that I had made it and I was here to stay. And Lyme did not get me.
And it was also a double blessing, because when I decided to do it, I asked my husband if he wanted to, and he did. I knew he would say he's in for anything. But we decided we're never getting on the podium for this race anyway. But that was not going to be a goal. We wanted to finish it together, and we did. And there's a clip of us in that race, finishing, holding hands, coming under the finish line together.
And he's my best friend, and that moment was really important to me.
[00:32:32] Speaker C: Wow. You got my eyes watery. That's amazing.
[00:32:35] Speaker D: Mine, too.
[00:32:36] Speaker C: That's amazing. Yeah, that's truly incredible. But Dr. K, that was a great question for her as far as, how did you know you were ready for that? Because I'm sure that there's people out there that have passions like yours and dreams like yours, and they don't know when to start. Like, we never know when we're pushing too hard or when we're. You really did get my eyes watery.
Don't know when we're pushing too hard or if we should be doing this. That was good to kind of know where your mindset was. And I love that. Obviously, you have a great cheerleader with your husband, and he probably pushed you as much as you pushed yourself. So that's amazing. I love it. Love it.
[00:33:23] Speaker D: And the thing about what you said, tanya, too, know, committing to Iron man was one tiny step at a time, so I could bail anytime. So if people have goals and dreams, like, you know, if it doesn't work, put it on the shelf, start again later.
[00:33:43] Speaker C: Yes. That's a great tip. That's a great tip. Because we all need dreams, right? That's what keeps the world going round, is to have future plans and dreams.
I'm just telling you that I know what it's like to be through the thick of this lime, and then I know what it's like to completely have your life back. And sometimes it's hard to imagine that or envision that, but we have too many success stories, share their stories with us to prove that we're not right. You can definitely get on the other side of it. I don't care how sick you are.
[00:34:22] Speaker D: There'S a lot of gratitude in that.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: So you started training.
How did your body respond to that?
You trained and then you were down for four days, or what happened?
[00:34:40] Speaker D: Well, when I started, as I said, it was kind of unofficial, so I think there was some rockiness to it.
I would get migraines sometimes the next day, I'd wake up the next day, but then I could do something like swim or hike, and it would improve. It wouldn't just be okay, it would make me feel better.
I also had some great detox methods. I live in a town that has so many resources. I had a wonderful cranial sacral guy. He helped me a lot.
Massage helped me a lot. I still go to the infrared sauna once a month now. I used to go twice a week.
So just the Epsom salt bath, just all the things that people do to detox.
I stepped it up because I wanted it so much, because I knew I was building up kind of bringing toxins out of my body, but to get them out, I was going to feel it. So I just had to have a way to detox so that it wasn't overwhelming to my body so I could keep training.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's amazing.
Diet is always kind of a big thing for people battling Lyme. What kind of diet did you use initially, and then also while training, because obviously here you're pushing your body, and you need to fuel your body so that it can appropriately repair. And especially if your adrenals are weak, then you really need to fuel it. So what did that look like?
[00:36:24] Speaker D: That was really tricky because I don't do well with fake food, anything processed. Even now, I don't do well with. I've been a vegetarian for most of my life, and then I dropped, as I said, gluten and dairy. And so when the dairy was gone, then I was a vegan. Right?
But then I was 108 pound vegan.
I went and saw a nutritionist, and she kind of talked me back into having fish. And I struggle with vitamin D levels, too, so that was a game changer for me to add the fish back and eggs.
So I pretty much eat plant based, except for fish and eggs. I don't eat a lot of eggs just because I don't really like to have them a lot.
But I do eat fish a lot.
I drink smoothies, but I don't do processed food. I don't do sugar. I don't do alcohol.
During training, that was really tricky because having sports nutrition in your back pocket when you're doing 100 miles bike ride is very convenient, but I couldn't do that. So there were a couple of products that I could manage and I just had to get creative with bringing fruit. Or I could eat gluten free bread with sunflower butter on it. But I can't do that very often because it's processed. So that was tricky. I can't do race food. I can't stop at the race stations and eat their food. I got to have my own stuff.
[00:38:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it's hard and it's a battle when you're going through this because I always thought I ate Pretty well anyways before I got sick. But then you realize what you're really, truly eating and it's very scary. I don't even like to think about it sometimes. And I know we eat some stuff that I should not be eating, which for another person would think that's really healthy, but really it's not. But I just tell my mind, I'm like, it's okay, Tanya. You can't change the world with everything that you eat. Like, you're going to make bad choices. And if I don't get affected by them, just keep detoxing all that poison out of my body and I'll be good. But it's hard.
[00:38:45] Speaker D: I think that's the thing, right? It's how does your body respond to it? And I know I can't eat corn, soy nuts.
I can't eat gluten. I can't eat dairy. I just know I can't.
But if I can have a dark chocolate, I will.
[00:39:02] Speaker C: That's good for us, right, Dr. K?
[00:39:05] Speaker D: Yep.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: It keeps your blood pressure low.
A lot of powerful antioxidants. And so how did it feel like to cross? I mean, here you've been battling to achieve this, iron man. And how did it feel to cross that finish line and knowing, do we.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: Have to talk about this again? You're going to make me cry all over again.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I am so intrigued. It must have been so cool to kind of know I've done this. I worked so hard for this. And here you come and you cross that finish line with your husband.
[00:39:44] Speaker D: It was amazing.
And I tell you, I am terrified of swimming. And so just getting it through that hurdle was everything.
But that was one of the sacrifices I made to achieve this dream, was to just buckle down and do it. But to cross that finish line and know that I was strong and my body was strong and my body got me through this. This is the same body that couldn't get out of bed two years ago.
It's a moment I can't even describe, but I'll never forget it.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker D: And I'm still strong. I still feel strong now.
[00:40:30] Speaker C: I love it.
Like I said at the beginning of the show, you are a true warrior, conqueror, whatever you want to call it. I mean, you put something that was a dream of yours that healthy people would never dream of trying to tackle, and you tackle it after you tackle this Lyme disease where you didn't want to live and couldn't get out of bed, let alone probably didn't even want to get out of bed. There was nothing to live for. We were sick. We didn't want to feel this way. And then to do conquer your dream, it's incredible. It's incredible. Love stories like that.
[00:41:12] Speaker B: And, Tanya, like you say, find your why and to have something like this to drive you, give you that purpose, and give you that reason to get stronger, get better.
And I think that in addition to having that mindset, it will just change how your body operates.
I actually think it changes how Lyme behaves inside of you when you have that mentality.
[00:41:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:41:48] Speaker C: It's good to hear it from a doctor's standpoint of that, because we do. We talk a lot about mindset and how you can't get better if you tell yourself every day, I'm never getting better. I'm never getting out of this, but it's just not going to happen. I don't care what kind of treatments you do. I don't care how much money you have to spend. It's not going to happen. You've got to know and have that will and want to get better, or it truly won't happen.
[00:42:16] Speaker D: Well, there were definitely times where I didn't have that.
I remember being in my car, looking at the grocery store, thinking, how am I going to get from this car to that store? And then how am I going to get through the store?
And to think that I was ever there.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: It's a different universe from there to Iron man. Wow.
[00:42:42] Speaker D: Yeah.
But it's a slow start and it's a slow getting better, and there's a lot of backsteps, but I think that if people can realize, it's not a straight shot to the know, just keep trying a different way, just get back up the next day, you might look back and find yourself. Well.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like tash mahal. We built one brick at a.
Yeah, yeah. Just that patient pushing forward, having the dream. Yeah. It's incredible. Well, Kate, this is such an inspiring story. So amazing.
You're talking about crossing that finish line, it just gives me chills.
[00:43:29] Speaker C: I know.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: I don't think this episode will for sure be in the top ones that I'll never forget, because that's an incredible ending to a rough journey.
[00:43:41] Speaker D: Thank you very much. I appreciate you letting me tell my story and I hope that other people can find their. Why, as you said.
[00:43:49] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Well, we so appreciate you sharing with us and so, so happy. And I don't know, maybe we'll be seeing her in the news or something, right?
[00:44:00] Speaker D: I'm not sure I'll be in the news.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: No. Mom to Everest next.
[00:44:06] Speaker D: Yeah, no, she's good. She's great.
[00:44:10] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:44:11] Speaker D: And water.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: It's been plenty. Yeah, good. Great.
[00:44:14] Speaker C: Awesome. Well, I'm so happy for you, and thank you so much again for sharing with us.
[00:44:18] Speaker D: Thank you.
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